Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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Q. Its apparent the protection problem hasnt been solved and its back to the drawing board for coach Mike McCarthy and his staff. If you were them, what would be your starting five on the offensive line?

A. It sounds like a broken record with the offensive line. We have to accept this is going to happen. Theyre going to give up five to six sacks every game the rest of the year. You have to accept that theyve got a general manager - this is his first time being a general manager - and a head coach - this is his first time being a head coach - who are going to need time for them to figure out what combination they want out there. You can put your two veterans in there, Mark Tauscher and Chad Clifton. When they were in there, things seemed to be working well. But when Allen Barbre came in, for some reason hes just not as physical in protection and I was surprised to see he was getting thrown around by some young guys. Scott Wells can be a guy who is the leader of that line. Hes a smart guy, hes not real big, but he can help Aaron Rodgers out with fronts and blitzes and can really give him some direction. With Spitz on injured reserve, you dont have much depth there. But if you have your two veteran guys at the tackles and Wells at center, Daryn Colledge just has to play better. There arent many other options. Theres not a combination out there that isnt going to give up sacks. The only thing you can do is let Tauscher start and Clifton start. If theyre healthy, let them play, if theyre not healthy, let them play. Bringing in someone now, theyre not going to do that.

Q. McCarthy said after the game that he might have worked the players too hard coming off the Minnesota loss last week and that it showed in the fourth quarter? Is it plausible that you could overwork a team in practice, especially when its the youngest team in the NFL?

A. The guys werent in full pads all week, so its hard to overwork a group thats not in pads. If they were in pads Wednesday and Thursday, I could see him overworking them where theyre tired and you need to back off a little when youre going to an environment where its going to be 80-85 degrees. But if you have the youngest team in the league, they need to be overworked every day because youre seeing the same mistakes. If he did overwork them, then theyre not working on the stuff that needs to be worked on. The one thing that kind of bothers me is that McCarthy says, We have to get this cleaned up, we have to take advantage of our opportunities. What he should say is, "I will fix this. If I have to play different combinations, different people, I will fix it." He did say it starts with the head coach and I applaud him for that because most head coaches, they hide behind their schemes or their players. McCarthy doesnt do that. He understands it falls on him. I respect him for that. But he needs to be more of a dad than a friend to these guys. Your dad disciplines you, but also loves you. Your friend tells you what you want to hear even when youre playing bad.

Q. If youre team president Mark Murphy and youre overseeing the entire Packers operation, when do you start reacting to whats going on and are there steps you can take now or do you have to let the season play out?

A. I would have evaluated things after the Minnesota game and maybe recommended to Ted that maybe McCarthy needs to turn the play calling over to Joe Philbin so he can get ahold of the team. When youre calling plays, its hard to delegate. I know a lot of coaches do that and maybe I would have gone to Dom Capers and suggested he scale the game plan down a little bit. I know when you hire a general manager, you have to stay out of his way. But ultimately, by giving Ted an extension and Ted giving Mike an extension, hes responsible. But things need to be changed at the top. When you change players and change the defensive staff and for the second week in a row youre giving up 38 points, now you have to reshuffle somewhere. Maybe sharing the play-calling duties with the offensive coordinator gives Mike more time to concentrate on the defensive side and special teams side. If it were me, there would have been a sense of urgency before this. These changes would have at least been up for discussion because at the end of the year, thats when you make big decisions. You dont make big changes during the season with coaches. But there have to be some changes somewhere. The question is whether the locker room is lost and they cant win winnable games right now.

Q. Give me one reason why you think the Packers can beat the Dallas Cowboys Sunday?

A. Aaron Rodgers. Let me address him first before people jump off his bandwagon. Hes 10-14 as a starter, which is not very good. What you saw Sunday you might not see again with him, a three-interception game, a bunch of passes that should not have been thrown, holding onto the ball a little too much. This guys an accurate quarterback, but hes accurate down the field. He has to get back to being sharp and quick and crisp with his passes. Anytime you have No. 12 in there, you have a chance. I still think hes a great quarterback - not a good one - and the future is bright for the Green Bay Packers. That lets me know they have a chance against the Dallas Cowboys. But I think the Cowboys are going to be like the big guy and were the little pipsqueak on the block and theyre bigger and faster and more physical than the Packers. But if Aaron plays well, they have a chance.

Q. If you had to pick two players - one on offense, one on defense - who absolutely had to pick up their play during the second half, who would it be?

A. One would have to be Daryn Colledge. He has to pick his game up to a level where youre comfortable out there with him. Im surprised with his progression. I just feel he has to play. If he doesnt, the quickest line to the quarterback is through the guards. I hate to single him out because all of them can play well, but hes the guy who I wanted to one day replace Mike Wahle and Marco Rivera. He has to play to that standard because both of those guys were big, physical guys. Right now, Daryn Colledge is not that. These next eight games are pivotal if he wants to keep playing on the line and the Packers want him to develop into a Pro Bowl player. On defense, I could pick seven guys, but if I had to pick one, it would probably be A.J. Hawk. If hes going to be an elite player, now is the time for him to finish with some great numbers. He was one of my two players of the game with 10 tackles and a real dumb call by the referee on his interception - they should have let that pass but when calls like that are made its because of your reputation. Im looking for A.J. Hawk to step up in these next eight games and be the great player everyone thought he could be being the No. 5 pick overall.


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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
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musccy
15 years ago
I agree with his practice too hard comments. I hate that excuse...team needs to grow a pair and shut up!

I like him calling out Colledge as well...his performance has made me sick lately.
Zero2Cool
15 years ago
I'd rather win ugly than lose pretty. We get the stats, but not the wins. We have a top ten offense and defense, yet .500 ball club. What does that tell you?
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
Love leroy. an ass, yes, but an ass who calls a spade a spade.

no more excuses, coaching staff. no more, "we need to fix it". Just fix it. Colledge; you're going backwards, man. Defense; you guys look lost. You know it. We know it. Fix it.

Not sure that can be done this season.
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PackFanWithTwins
15 years ago
Glad that LeRoy is on page with me. Get that playbook out of McCarthy's hands. I swear to god he has blinders on that only let him see 15 yards down field or more.

Also with the allowing him to be the HC and get control of the sideline. Leave Philbin up in the booth and let him call the plays.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

But he needs to be more of a dad than a friend to these guys. Your dad disciplines you, but also loves you. Your friend tells you what you want to hear even when youre playing bad.



Quote of the day, right there.

I also love it how he names names.
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zombieslayer
15 years ago

Love leroy. an ass, yes, but an ass who calls a spade a spade.

no more excuses, coaching staff. no more, "we need to fix it". Just fix it. Colledge; you're going backwards, man. Defense; you guys look lost. You know it. We know it. Fix it.

Not sure that can be done this season.

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Is he really an ass, or is he an ass because he tells it like it is? Some people don't like to be told the truth. They want things watered down.

If I were fighting zombies, I'd rather have someone like LeRoy Butler on my side; someone who is brutally honest and NOT nice about it.

Maybe he's what this team needs. I'd love to see the guy as our DB Coach or something.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

Get that playbook out of McCarthy's hands.

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I wholeheartedly agree with this, and I'm surprised he hasn't delegated playcalling responsibilities to someone else purely to save his own job. He could use a scapegoat right now. Let Philbin call the plays and if performance doesn't improve, fire him at the end of the season. If things do improve, then spend your time focusing on what you do best (whatever that is). Right now, McCarthy is functioning as a lightning rod for all the woes of this team, and while that may be noble in a sense, it's not what he was hired to do. An intelligent leader surrounds himself with men who are better than he is; he doesn't try to do everything himself. I'd like to see Mike McCarthy loosen the reins a little and give his staff a chance to demonstrate its leadership potential.
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hardrocker950
15 years ago
I agree with basically everything that was said. We are all tired of the excuses, and we want to see action! This team has HUGE potential, but that is useless to acknowledge until the issues are worked out. I'm not saying that the OL can't give up a sack once in a while, but seriously...
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