all_about_da_packers
15 years ago
People, IMO are missing the main point (or implication) of this column piece...


It throws out there, perhaps too subtly, the idea that the executive committee was pulling the strings largely in the Favre saga.

Historically, when the executive committee had too much pull, the teams have gone downward. When Harlan kept the committee confined within limits, the team tended to perform well on the field. Mark Murphy might not be on top of his game.... or so Cliff suggests.


If you read a COLUMN as an article ... well then you're going to find yr time has been wasted.
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nerdmann
15 years ago

dd80, I get your implication, and I think it's unwarranted. I didn't make my comment about this article because I agreed or disagreed with its premise. I was making the point that virtually all articles on the Press Gazette and the Journal Sentinel are shameless opinion pieces. The advent of the blog has diluted journalism to the point where there's little to no objective analysis anymore. This is the age of the columnist. The investigator has gone by the wayside. What little investigative journalism still exists isn't much different. They don't look into an issue to determine truth -- they concoct a thesis and they dig up whatever evidence they can to support it.

Last week, my two partners and I had to give a public presentation in which we admitted our neurophysiological hypothesis was dead wrong. How often do journalists these days admit when they are wrong? It practically doesn't happen, and even when it does, it's usually accompanied by excuses.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




You had a neurophysicological hypothesis?
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago
define:column
# an article giving opinions or perspectives


umm ...
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all_about_da_packers
15 years ago

define:column
# an article giving opinions or perspectives


umm ...

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




Point taken, although I think people can accurately infer what I meant to say... judging a column piece by whether or not it reveals anymore details of what went on does a disservice to the piece.


It raises an issue that is interesting, although as Greg pointed out (and I agree with him) Cliff's support for his proposition is shockingly weak.
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Greg C.
15 years ago
You make a good point, AADP, about the executive committee. I did some research (i.e., googling) on this issue and saw that there was speculation from the very beginning that Fleischer was hired to spin the Favre story. Given the timeline, that certainly sounds possible. At the time, I had taken the Packers at face value when they said he was hired as some kind of motivational speaker.

But Cristl goes way overboard here on the basis of no real evidence. He uses some charged words that suggest that he has an agenda. For example, he said that the NFL ruled that the Packer's tampering charge was "unfounded." They ruled that there was insufficient evidence to support it. Cristl's word "unfounded" implies that it was totally made up.

Stuff like the Ryan Pickett quote is kind of weird too. How does a quote from a random teammate figure into such a serious article? And there's more, but I have to go now.
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Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago

You had a neurophysicological hypothesis?

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Yep. My group hypothesized that there might be a correlation between brain activation patterns characteristic of color vision and those found in dreaming. It turned out we were dead wrong. We had to eat our humble pie publicly (particularly me, since I was the primary driver behind the hypothesis). But it was cathartic and refreshing somehow, and we blew the other, purely informative presentations out of the water. 😃
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nerdmann
15 years ago

You had a neurophysicological hypothesis?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Yep. My group hypothesized that there might be a correlation between brain activation patterns characteristic of color vision and those found in dreaming. It turned out we were dead wrong. We had to eat our humble pie publicly (particularly me, since I was the primary driver behind the hypothesis). But it was cathartic and refreshing somehow, and we blew the other, purely informative presentations out of the water. :D

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That's cool man. In science, nothing's really personal.
I study Chinese medicine, so I have a completely different medical ontology. (Dreaming=heart heat. The "mind" is located in the heart, along with the corporeal soul.)
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