nerdmann
15 years ago

I have wondered if the lack of short passes has been a fault of Rodgers or offensive coaching in previous games. Based on recent comments, I get the impression that Rodgers is too impatient for the short dump-off or slant pass. I think the game against the Browns should have shown him that smart short passes can be just as effective as the deep ball. If that doesn't, I am worried we are in for more 5-6 sack games.

"dyeah_gb" wrote:




Theoretically, in the WCO, the WRs use slants to get an angle on the defenders, opening YAC opportunities.
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nerdmann
15 years ago

I say you don't change nothin'.

Rodgers is #1 in the nfl in YPA. That's yards per attempt for those that don't know. Why would you do something else and wouldn't life be grand if it were as simple as just throwing the ball short most the time?

To be where Rodgers is requires balance. The short pass feeds the long pass and the long pass benefits the short pass. If a defender has to play it straight up not knowing whether or not the WR may try burning him deep that HELPS the short pass.

You want to see Rodgers numbers go DOWN? Just have them change up what they are doing. There's a much greater chess match going on out there than it being as simple as throwing shorter passes because the percentage looks good.

The biggest nighmare the Packer offense presents to any defense is that they can take it to the house on any given play and some here suggest going more dinky do in the passing game?

I know what I am going to hear "well, our WR's can take a quick slant to the house." You know why this is? Because the DB's are having to play us straight up. They can't afford to sneak up UNLESS all we show them is the short stuff.

The reason you let Rodgers do what he's doing is simple. BECAUSE HE CAN. You don't take a QB that can get the ball out there to people down field and put it in a jar. Especially with the receivers he has to throw it to.

"warhawk" wrote:




Moving the chains eats up time of possession. You wear the defense down and conserve your defense.
I'm not saying never go deep. It's just that they don't have to constantly be throwing deep to the detriment of short passes. It seemed earlier in the season that they had switched to the Tom Rosseley offense. This sucked, because Rodgers didn't have time to wait for the WRs to get down the field.
The WCO also gets the ball out much faster. Three step drop. Slant. Get rid of the ball. YAC.
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