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15 years ago

[img_l]http://media.jsonline.com/images/nickel_col.jpg[/img_l]Lori Nickel

Rodgers learning he can't do it solo
 

Posted: Sept. 23, 2009

Green Bay The problem with the Packer offensive line not protecting quarterback Aaron Rodgers is much deeper than the obvious risk of letting the 25-year-old get pounded all day for the second straight week.

The problem is that the ever-conscientious Rodgers sat hunched over at his locker in solitude late Sunday afternoon, looking worse for wear after he took a physical, and undoubtedly mental, beating from the Cincinnati Bengals.

And the concern extends beyond Rodgers' aches, his offensive line's protection breakdowns and receivers' apparent lapses in focus.

The underlying problem is that Rodgers has been, is now, and perhaps always will be trying to prove that he is worthy to be Green Bay's next quarterback.

So even as the world is collapsing around him, he'll lay everything on the line and perhaps do more than he should. Or hold back more than he should.

It's why he ran for his life at Lambeau Field on Sunday, churning up 43 terrified yards, when he saw the pressure coming. It's how he managed to cling to the ball with his massive hands even when he didn't see it coming.

That Rodgers somehow didn't cough up a fumble despite being sacked an unfathomable six times by the Bengals, or once out of every 10 plays on offense, is an example of how focused Rodgers is at living up to his own expectations.

He's on another mission to prove himself, just as he was in high school, when he was overlooked during recruiting. Then at college, proving he was more than a junior-college transfer. Then on that long and drawn out draft day. And again now as a second-year starter after a disappointing 6-10 season in 2008.

A mission to prove he belongs, a mission to prove he can will a team to win. So, he gripped and he ran.

But that mission also meant when Rodgers wasn't being pursued, he sometimes just held the ball a second too long. And maybe that's not even right - a whole second, it might have been less.

It's like taking a photograph of something in action when you have to anticipate, at just the right moment, when to snap that picture to capture the moment. A little too soon or a little too late and the whole photo looks off.

That's how Rodgers looked against the Bengals - his timing was off. He didn't throw it away when no play was there; he didn't always hit the open man right away; he couldn't bail himself out. He held and looked and held and looked.

There's a very valid reason for Rodgers holding on to the ball too long: it is his only way of control in a game unraveling around him. By holding on, he won't give it away.

That's his other mission. For better or worse, Rodgers is a perfectionist and has been since he arrived from California, doing everything by the book - the footwork, the progression reads, the tight spirals and the accurate deep balls.

However, remember when Rodgers first got here, he sat behind Brett Favre and watched No. 4 lead and win, but Rodgers also had a front-row seat to all the interceptions.

Favre is the NFL's all-time leader in interceptions, and the one against the New York Giants in the NFC Championship Game on Jan. 20, 2008, was particularly critical. And perhaps that interception, visible to Rodgers and only those inside the organization as well, drew internal criticism inside the walls of Lambeau.

At the impressionable stage of his career, the message - intentional or subliminal - was driven further in to Rodgers in what he was not supposed to do, which is throw interceptions.

Rodgers had to focus his attention and energy during the 2008 season on replacing Favre, emerging as a leader and anticipating a repeat playoff season.

Rodgers was also adamant that he not throw a pick. His goal was to keep it under 10 (he had 13). And he was especially harsh on himself when he did.

We know turnovers are costly to teams. The Packers study such events and know the odds are against the team that falls behind in the turnover ratio.

So, it's always been coach Mike McCarthy's philosophy to ask his defense to make up for it.

It's not bad that Rodgers is mindful of each possession. But perhaps, it has gone to the extent of holding on too tightly and not trusting the arm, the play called, the receiver or his very own eyes.

And who can fault Rodgers? Against the Bears and the Bengals, he has already withstood 10 sacks and eight dropped balls by his receivers.

But there's more than Xs and Os going on in that head of his. While he is beyond all the comparisons to his predecessor, he still has the nature and personality of someone who wants to succeed and needs to make people believe in him.

The solution, of course, is that the offensive line has to start playing better and the receivers have to catch the ball. Some resemblance to a running game would be absolute joy.

But if the walls keep crumbling and Rodgers has to turn in to football's Bear Grylls, developing his own survival techniques, it will wear away at the very mission that got him here in the first place.

And that's not good for him or the Packers.

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Rockmolder
15 years ago
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This is the stuff that ruins a QB. Just look at that video. Or David Carr.

The team is really letting him down so far. I don't know where this sudden case of the drops came from, but that's really the last thing we need. Especially with the idiotic amount of sacks we're giving up.

Obviously, they're not going to sign any players if no one else goes down, so lets just hope that everyone steps up. If not for themselfs, then for people like Charles and Aaron who are playing their hearths out for diddly squat.
zombieslayer
15 years ago
This article is badly outdated. Rodgers has nothing to prove. Packer fans already believe in him. Hell, you all know I'm a huge Brett Favre fan and I still love Aaron.

I strongly do not think that if we have another 6-10 season, Packer fans will blame Aaron. They'd blame TT, MM, the OL, the bad rushing D, but not Aaron.

And of course Brett Favre leads in career INTs - he's thrown way more passes than anyone else. He has a 3.3% career INT %. Marino had 3.0%, Elway 3.1%, Troy Aikman 3.0%. Those are 3 QBs I've seen as similar (keep in mind the rule changes that are making it easier and easier to be a receiver).

Now before people say that's bad, Aikman had a 3.5% TD career, Elway 4.1% TDs, and both Marino and Favre had 5.0%. So I'll take those INTs for the scoring because in the end, the ONLY thing that matters is that you score more points than your opponent.

Back to Aaron, I don't see so much a perfectionist as someone reacting to a bad OL. Rockmolder was right, showing Everett's phantom sack and mentioning David Carr. I've always thought Carr could have been a good NFL QB had he not been behind the worst OL in the game. Leading the NFL in sacks 3 out of 4 years is going to f*** up your head. It's called being human.

Our OL is got to protect better. After 2 games, Rodgers is leading the NFL in sacks, and Rodgers is also one of the top scramblers in the game and very good at avoiding pressure. So that shows in addition how bad our OL is right now.
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Cheesey
15 years ago
That vid shows what being constantly pressured can do to a QB.
Even if someone gets open, the QB is too busy watching the D to see a guy downfield.
We better get the O-line fixed, or we will lose Aaron Rodgers to injury.
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gotarace
15 years ago
I'm glad Aarons reaction to the nonstop blitz and pressure he experenced sunday was to start to scramble. He has stayed calm so far in the eye of this storm but repeated beatings like this can make the fearless look for a corner to hide in.
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Zero2Cool
15 years ago

The O-Line had something in the preseason, they just need to figure out what it was and try to replicate it. Otherwise it's bye bye QB and bye bye running game (not that we have one).

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In the pre season, I don't think we were blitz much at all and teams weren't game planning on us for a week to beat us. They were more focus'd on evaluating their talent.
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bozz_2006
15 years ago
Only I don't think he has to prove he is worthy of being Green Bay's next quarterback.
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Porforis
15 years ago

Only I don't think he has to prove he is worthy of being Green Bay's next quarterback.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



This is all about his confidence, in what he thinks of himself. The way he reacts to pressure. If he keeps getting destroyed, he's going to start losing his grip on the fundamentals and it theoretically could ruin his career. You can come back from a physical injury, coming back from a serious mental injury is a lot harder.
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