Nonstopdrivel
15 years ago
Take him to task for holding out. Offering him 3 years and let him earn his job security. :pottytrain2:
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15 years ago
Playing for the Packers is something special. We're going under the impression that the Packers feel Raji has something special to provide as well, which is why they used a #9 pick on him. Both sides have something to offer. That means it's time to negotiate. Stick with a Thompson-like mentality. Weigh the pros and cons of your actions carefully and act accordingly.
Personally, I think the whole thing is unfortunate, and also think that if any other of the teams and their 1st round draft pick were sitting at the #9 spot instead of us, they'd be in the exact same situation because of the surrounding circumstances. There's nothing inherently wrong with it being a careful negotiation process. It just bothers us because it's now intruding on Raji's preparation time in camp. Shit happens, I guess. Roll with it.
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dfosterf
15 years ago
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5 year 27.5 mil
16 guarantee

past that; he can below me .

Drops 250k per practice missed from now on.
15 years ago
It becomes glaringly obvious why it's so damn difficult to get a deal done. DHB's deal and Crabtree's demands are really screwing the pooch.
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15 years ago
+1 for your efforts sir. (Dfosterf)
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dfosterf
15 years ago

+1 for your efforts sir. (Dfosterf)

"wpr" wrote:



Thank you Wayne.

(This post also known as brazen bar graph promotion, lol)
bozz_2006
15 years ago
lol & +1 @ "whole fucking problem"... gotta place some of the blame on the raiders too, though.
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dfosterf
15 years ago

lol & +1 @ "whole fucking problem"... gotta place some of the blame on the raiders too, though.

"bozz_2006" wrote:



I am quite pleased to report that I am an equal-opportunity ranter.

I actually went "national" with my complaints, and am amazed that they actually published it. I didn't complain about just the Raiders...as you can see...

I actually blamed everyone (but me...LOL) Especially outrageous when you consider that I have included the author of the article in my blame "list".

National Football Post; Crabtree ill-advised threat 

My rant (It is comments to article linked)

DFOSTERF wrote:

Mike Singletary is partially at fault here. As a player, he was renowned as one of the "tough guys", and I always respected that. In the beginning of this fiasco, instead of either taking a hard-line stance or alternatively keeping his yap shut, Singletary decided to reminisce about the 2 times he held out as a player. FAIL. Then I get to read how so many 49er fans think that Mike is going to exact some revenge when the diva Crybabytree finally does roll into camp. Sure.

Al Davis' physician is partially at fault here. Had he kept the old guy's dosage properly monitored, DHB would have not been taken by the Raiders in the first place, and once drafted certainly wouldn't have been overpaid, especially in light of the "reach" nature of that selection. Put him on an IV drip, doc.

T.O. is partially at fault here. These young wide receivers all seem to aspire to the same narcissistic model of behavior.

Matt Bowen is partially at fault here. Oh yes, we all remember what Matt has written on the subject of draft picks and them getting "paid". We suspect that Crabtree's cousin got someone to read Matt's articles to Crabtree.

As a Packer fan FLIPPING OUT because my pick isn't in camp, I am on the case regarding the culpable parties...lol.

Boston College is partially at fault here. B.J. Raji was not given the benefit of anything approaching a decent education,as evidenced by the fact that he missed the part about fallacies of logic, so he is hitching his fate to that of Crabtree's, (and apparently Crab's cousin) at least partially. Let me take this opportunity to advise B.J. that when you autographed those press passes at BC, you might have taken the time and trouble to learn that it is "Soar Eagles", not "Sore Eagles". Call me nervous. (j/k btw)

I suspect a long, long wait. It is everyone's fault but mine. I'm working on all of the reasons and will get back to you on that...in the meantime, here are a few more...

Parker: You are the best
Crabtree: Ya, I am the best
Parker: DHB can't carry your jockstrap
Crabtree: Ya, DHB can't carry my jockstrap
Parker: You deserve top three money
Crabtree: Ya, I deserve top three money

Dunn: You are the best
Raji: Ya, I am the best
Dunn: Crabtree can't carry your jockstrap
Raji: Ya, Crabtree can't carry my jockstrap
Dunn: You deserve more money than Crabtree
Raji: Ya, I deserve more money than Crabtree

The guy that wrote an article for the SF Chronicle is partially at fault. (You 49er fans can fill in author's name) Instead of being used by the team in the PR battle, he got used by the Crabtree "camp". He applied pressure via that piece on the 49ers to pay Crabtree DHB money or better. Amazingly, within about 24 hours of that article hitting, we get this holdout threat from diva and co.










Dfosterf
Aug 07, 2009
09:53 AM
Thank you for publishing my rant. I feel better now.
Back to your regularly scheduled, far more coherent commentary.
:)



Thanks for the +1

I am glad I made you laugh. I did too. :thumbleft:

As far as the predictions go... yesterday Andrew Brandt predicted that Crabtree would hold out until labor day.

It has to be Raji or Monroe to break this logjam--- I was only semi-kidding up a reduction in number threat (my prediction post) if Raji doesn't take the offer. Just about EVERYONE here has "overpaid" him slot-wise in their prediction, which I think is exactly what needs to and will happen to get him into camp in any (now unreasonable-semi) reasonable time frame.
buckeyepackfan
15 years ago
Time for Ted and company to figure out what they want to offer him, if he declines, then time to move on.

Everyday Raji is not in camp, is another day he is behind. Let him sit out the entire year, there are plenty of players out there who want to play football, bring in as many as you have to and find someone to play.

Dealing with a player unwilling to sign is not what The Packers should be doing right now, putting together the best 53 man roster they can should be the #1 perogative.

He doesn't want to sign the deal that is offered then screw him and move on.

Prima Donnas are a dime a dozen, find the guy(I.E DD)who has overcome life struggles and give him a shot.

Winning teams do not have a bunch of superstars, they usually have a bunch of talented guys who will do whatever they have to to get a TEAM WIN!!!!!

one more thing.....AGENTS ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH!!!!!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
15 years ago

putting together the best 53 man roster they can should be the #1 perogative.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



And that is why they're negotiating to get him on the team. They have to back their actions that he was the #1 defensive tackle in the draft, and at worst the 9th best football player for them overall.
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