15 years ago

Warhawk, if there is enough talent on this team, and they are properly coached, they will win. So far Thompson's teams have lost more than they have won.

"IronMan" wrote:



That depends on how you define "Thompson's teams" now doesn't it? It's pretty hard to make the case that the team that was thrust on him that first year was HIS team.
UserPostedImage
IronMan
15 years ago
God I am tired of the Sherman excuses. I'll tell you what; if we have another losing season this year, lets fire Mike Sherman again.
DakotaT
15 years ago

God I am tired of the Sherman excuses. I'll tell you what; if we have another losing season this year, lets fire Mike Sherman again.

"IronMan" wrote:



That wouldn't be necessary, but I'd certainly accept a formal public apology for weakening our team to the brink of laughability. :thumbleft:
UserPostedImage
warhawk
15 years ago

Warhawk, if there is enough talent on this team, and they are properly coached, they will win. So far Thompson's teams have lost more than they have won.

Four years, one winning season. IF, we have another losing season, that will be one winning season in five years. That's just not good enough. It seems there are a lot of fans that are more concerned with Thompson keeping his job, than they are winning football games.

It reminds me of when Favre would throw 4 picks in a game and fans would say, "Yeah, but his receivers ran the wrong way!" LOL

The question I have for those that want Thompson gone is what do you want the next guy to do?

"IronMan" wrote:


Win. How difficult is that to understand?



It's easy to say he's won only once in four years but that's where I look at it differently than you and others here. Thompson had little to do with '05. That team started twenty of the same twenty two that were on Shermans team the year before. He had no time or money to make an impact on that squad.

When Thompson does leave I certainly won't look at the next GM and be hooking him for the following years results either. Good or bad. Not unless he's left with a boatload of cash and does have the ability to make several personnel changes that obviously make a difference. That certainly was not the case when Thompson got here.

After that first year of PTSSS (Post Traumatic Sherman Stress Syndrome) changes in personnel did come with the likes of Woodson, Pickett, and guys like Hawk, Jennings, Bigby, Colledge and Spitz, got beyond rookie-year type contributions and the team started to roll.

The next two years we won twenty one of 32 regular season games. That's the stretch people dogging Thompson seem to forget. We only had like the most wins of ANYBODY for the last half of '06 and all of '07. When you look over a stretch of 24 ballgames that's no fluke. Sure, any team can get hot or lucky or whatever for four or five games but over twenty four games? No. You ARE good when you have success over that long of a period.

So when someone asks me about winning and how hard is to understand I have to ask how short is your memory?

Like I said before I have no problem with the 45 we will line up against the Bears with opening night. The talent is there. For me, it's up to the coaches to coach and the players to play and get it done. That combination did not click last year for whatever reason especially so on the defensive side of the ball but I am not close to running up to the GM's door and start telling him it's his fault.
"The train is leaving the station."
dhazer
15 years ago
I still think MM is on the hot seat and we could have our next HC on the staff already. Capers was a HC before and could become one again. I really don't think MM brings out the best in his players.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
UserPostedImage
IronMan
15 years ago


Like I said before I have no problem with the 45 we will line up against the Bears with opening night. The talent is there. For me, it's up to the coaches to coach and the players to play and get it done. That combination did not click last year for whatever reason especially so on the defensive side of the ball but I am not close to running up to the GM's door and start telling him it's his fault.

"warhawk" wrote:


But its ok to blame Sherman after he's been gone for 4 years. That makes sense.
bozz_2006
15 years ago
yep.
UserPostedImage
earthquake
15 years ago

I still think Mike McCarthy is on the hot seat and we could have our next HC on the staff already. Capers was a HC before and could become one again. I really don't think Mike McCarthy brings out the best in his players.

"dhazer" wrote:



I wouldn't be entirely shocked to see something like this play out.

Personally, i think McCarthy has a free run this year, with the transition to a new defense, i think the pressure will be on him intensely if he does not deliver a very good season in 2010. I don't really see Thompson being tied directly to McCarthy. I personally feel like Thompson has done a pretty good job, and its not a case of lacking the talent to win(which would be the only reason to fire the GM).
blank
15 years ago

God I am tired of the Sherman excuses. I'll tell you what; if we have another losing season this year, lets fire Mike Sherman again.

"IronMan" wrote:



God forbid we be accurate with our assessment and start judging him based on record a year after he shows up, after he's had a chance to do anything.
UserPostedImage
DakotaT
15 years ago

God I am tired of the Sherman excuses. I'll tell you what; if we have another losing season this year, lets fire Mike Sherman again.

"MassPackersFan" wrote:



God forbid we be accurate with our assessment and start judging him based on record a year after he shows up, after he's had a chance to do anything.

"IronMan" wrote:



I totally concur, that 4-12 season goes to Sherman, after all, he coached his own mess.

Yeah the team Sherman took over and the team Ted Thompson took were total equals in some people's minds. I've posted this many times: Sherman had Brett and Ahman in the absolute prime of their careers, where's the hardware boys?
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (1h) : Benton unsigned no more
Zero2Cool (23h) : That's good analysis, yes you are getting old. It'd a blessing!
dfosterf (14-Jul) : *analysis* gettin' old
dfosterf (14-Jul) : One of the best analyisis I"ve ever watched at this time of an offseason
dfosterf (14-Jul) : Andy Herman interviewed Warren Sharp on his Pack a day podcast
packerfanoutwest (10-Jul) : Us Padres fans love it....But it'll be a Dodgers/Yankees World Series
Zero2Cool (9-Jul) : Brewers sweep Dodgers. Awesome
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : And James Flanigan is the grandson of Packers Super Bowl winner Jim Flanigan Sr.
Mucky Tundra (6-Jul) : Jerome Bettis and Jim Flanigans sons as well!
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Thomas Davis Jr is OLB, not WR. Oops.
Zero2Cool (6-Jul) : Larry Fitzgeral and Thomas Davis sons too. WR's as well.
Mucky Tundra (5-Jul) : Kaydon Finley, son of Jermichael Finley, commits to Notre Dame
dfosterf (3-Jul) : Make sure to send my props to him! A plus move!
Zero2Cool (3-Jul) : My cousin, yes.
dfosterf (3-Jul) : That was your brother the GB press gazette referenced with the red cross draft props thing, yes?
Zero2Cool (2-Jul) : Packers gonna unveil new throwback helmet in few weeks.
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : I know it's Kleiman but this stuff writes itself
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : "Make sure she signs the NDA before asking for a Happy Ending!"
Mucky Tundra (2-Jul) : @NFL_DovKleiman Powerful: Deshaun Watson is taking Shedeur Sanders 'under his wing' as a mentor to the Browns QBs
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Dolphins get (back) Minkah Fitzpatrick in trade
Zero2Cool (30-Jun) : Steelers land Jalen Ramsey via Trade
dfosterf (26-Jun) : I think it would be great to have someone like Tom Grossi or Andy Herman on the Board of Directors so he/they could inform us
dfosterf (26-Jun) : Fair enough, WPR. Thing is, I have been a long time advocate to at least have some inkling of the dynamics within the board.
wpr (26-Jun) : 1st world owners/stockholders problems dfosterf.
Martha Careful (25-Jun) : I would have otherwise admirably served
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Also, no more provision for a write-in candidate, so Martha is off the table at least for this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : You do have to interpret the boring fine print, but all stockholders all see he is on the ballot
dfosterf (25-Jun) : It also says he is subject to another ballot in 2028. I recall nothing of this nature with Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy is on my ballot subject to me penciling him in as a no.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : I thought it used to be we voted for the whatever they called the 45, and then they voted for the seven, and then they voted for Mark Murphy
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Because I was too lazy to change my address, I haven't voted fot years until this year
dfosterf (25-Jun) : of the folks that run this team. I do not recall Mark Murphy being subject to our vote.
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Ed Policy yay or nay is on the pre-approved ballot that we always approve because we are uninformed and lazy, along with all the rest
dfosterf (25-Jun) : Weird question. Very esoteric. For stockholders. Also lengthy. Sorry. Offseason.
Zero2Cool (25-Jun) : Maybe wicked wind chill made it worse?
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : And then he signs with Cleveland in the offseason
Mucky Tundra (25-Jun) : @SharpFootball WR Diontae Johnson just admitted he refused to enter a game in 41° weather last year in Baltimore because he felt “ice cold”
Zero2Cool (24-Jun) : Yawn. Rodgers says he is "pretty sure" this be final season.
Zero2Cool (23-Jun) : PFT claims Packers are having extension talks with Zach Tom, Quay Walker.
Mucky Tundra (20-Jun) : GB-Minnesota 2004 Wild Card game popped up on my YouTube page....UGH
beast (20-Jun) : Hmm 🤔 re-signing Walker before Tom? Sounds highly questionable to me.
Mucky Tundra (19-Jun) : One person on Twitter=cannon law
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Well, to ONE person on Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : According to Tweeter
Zero2Cool (19-Jun) : Packers are working on extension for LT Walker they hope to have done before camp
dfosterf (18-Jun) : E4B landed at Andrews last night
dfosterf (18-Jun) : 101 in a 60
dfosterf (18-Jun) : FAFO
Zero2Cool (18-Jun) : one year $4m with incentives to make it up to $6m
dfosterf (18-Jun) : Or Lions
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
28m / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

18h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

15-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

14-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

10-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

10-Jul / Around The NFL / Zero2Cool

6-Jul / Random Babble / Martha Careful

4-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

2-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

2-Jul / Fantasy Sports Talk / dfosterf

1-Jul / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Jun / Around The NFL / Martha Careful

23-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.