CaliforniaCheez
16 years ago
Here is my assembled draft board. It goes 4 rounds.

Beyond that it is just too tough to call. It is a composite of several draft websites giving the players positions. It is what draft "experts" think of he relative value of the players.

I hope it is a more valuable tool than just one website.

Name Pos School
1)Curry, Aaron LB Wake Forest
2)Smith, Jason OT Baylor
3)Crabtree, Michael WR TX Tech
4)Stafford, Matt QB GA
5)Monroe, Eugene OT VA
6)Orakpo, Brian DE TX
7)Raji, B.J. DT Boston Col
8)Sanchez, Mark QB USC
9)Maclin, Jeremy WR MO
10)Jenkins, Malcolm CB OH ST
11)Smith, Andre OT AL
12)Wells, Chris RB OH ST
13)Oher, Michael OT MS
14)Maualuga, Rey LB USC
15)Jackson, Tyson DT LA ST
16)Cushing, Brian LB USC
17)Moreno, K. FB GA
18)Brown, Everette DE FL ST
19)Davis, Vontae CB IL
20)Harvin, Percy WR FL
21)Freeman, Josh QB KS ST
22)Pettigrew, B. TE OK ST
23)Heyward-Bey, D. WR MD
24)Maybin, Aaron DE Penn ST
25)Laurinaitis, Jim LB OH ST
26)Matthews, Clay DE USC
27)Peria, Jerry DT MS
28)Butler, Darius CB Connecticut
29)Hood, Evander DT MO
30)Johnson, Michael DE GA Tech
31)Ayers, Robert DE TN
32)Brown, Donald FB Connecticut
33)Britton , Eben OT AZ
34)English, Larry DE N IL
35)Smith, Alphonso CB Wake Forest
36)Nicks, Hakeem WR NC
37)Barwin, Connor DE Cincinnati
38)Britt, Kenny WR Rutgers
39)Mack, Alex C CA
40)Beatty, William OT Connecticut
41)McCoy, LeSean RB Pittsburgh
42)Sintim, Clint LB VA
43)Smith, Sean CB Utah
44)Unger, Max OT OR
45)Robiskie, Brian WR OH ST
46)Moore D.J. CB Vanderbilt
47)Cook, Jared TE SC
48)Robinson, Duke OG OK
49)Delmas, Louis S W MI
50)Moore, William S MO
51)Chung, Patrick S OR
52)Meredith, Jamon OT SC
53)Gilbert , Jarron DE San Jose St
54)Brace. Ron DT Boston Col
55)Wood, Eric C Louisville
56)Kruger, Paul DE Utah
57)Moala, Fili DT USC
58)Nelson, Shawn TE Southern MS
59)Freeman, Marcus LB OH ST
60)Loadholt, Phil OT OK
61)Johnson, Rashad S AL
62)Coffman, Chase TE MO
63)Williams, Derrick WR Penn ST
64)Marks,SenDerrick DT Auburn
65)Brown, Andre RB N Car St
66)Byrd, Jarius CB OR
67)Ingram, Cornelius TE FL
68)Iglesias, Juaquin WR OK
69)Lewis, Keenan CB OR ST
70)Magee, Alex DT Purdue
71)Sidbury, Larry DE Richmond
72)Beckwith, Darry LB LA ST
73)Greene, Shonn FB IA
74)Casey, James TE Rice
75)Murphy, Louis WR FL
76)Vaughn, Chip S Wake Forest
77)Jennings, Rashad FB Liberty
78)Levitre, Andy OG OR ST
79)Harris, Victor CB VA Tech
80)Brown, Cody OLB Connecticut
81)Francies, Coye CB San Jose St
82)Mickens, Mike CB Cincinnati
83)Caldwell, Antoine C AL
84)Allen, Asher CB GA
85)Johnson, Herman OG LA ST
86)Urbik, Kraig OG WI
87)Beckum, Travis TE WI
88)Brinkley, Jasper LB SC
89)Luigs, Jonathan C AR
90)White, Patrick QB WV
91)Tate, Brandon WR NC
92)McBath, Darcel S TX Tech
93)Cadogan, Gerald OT Penn ST
94)Bomar, Rhett QB Sam Houston
95)Ellerbe, Dannell LB GA
96)Kropog , Troy OT Tulane
97)Hamlin, Michael S Clemson
98)Bruton, David S Notre Dame
99)Ringer, Javon RB MI ST
100)McKenzie, T. OLB South FL
101)Barden, Ramses WR Cal Poly
102)McRath, Gerald LB S MI
103)Massaquoi, M. WR GA
104)Shaughnessy, M. DE WI
105)Tupou, Fenuki OT OR
106)Fulton, Xavier OT IL
107)Davis, Nate QB Ball State
108)Fletcher, Bradley CB IA
109)Martin, Sherrod CB Troy
110)Thomas, Mike WR AZ
111)Barnes, Kevin CB MD
112)Casillas, Jon LB WI
113)Francois, Ricky DT LA ST
114)Canfield, Trevor OG Cincinnati
115)McKillop, Scott LB Pittsburgh
116)Baker, Chris DT Hampton
117)Walker, Vance DT GA Tech
118)Gibson, Brandon WR WA ST
119)Maiava, Kaluka LB USC
120)Phillips, Jason LB TCU
121)Watkins, Jason OT FL
122)Taylor, Terrence DT MI
123)Davis, James RB Clemson
124)Veikune, David DE HI
125)Follet, Zack LB CA
126)Morrah,Cameron TE CA
127)Greene,Courtney S Rutgers
128)Coffee, Glen RB AL
129)Hill, Anthony TE NC St
130)Lewis, Cornelius OG TN St
131)Goodson, Mike RB TX A&M
132)Foster, Brooks WR NC
133)Johnson,J. RB OR
134)Byrd, Demetrius WR LA ST


Something to help you in your mock draft contests and handy when the trade down(s) occur.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
So if the Packers are taking Mark Sanchez, who are they letting go? 😉
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CaliforniaCheez
16 years ago
I make a composite of 5 fairly trustworthy draft sites in an effort to eliminate the errors and wide variables some players have.

I put a little effort into it to help people. I do it each year.

The last thing I need is some scoffing moderator who refuses to read; laughing at the work. Don't you realize the difference between a draft board and a mock draft?

If you trust only one draft source, you undoubtedly be way off. This gives a general idea of what several more reliable draft sources are saying.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
I wasn't scoffing -- hence the wink -- I was asking a semi-serious, semi-facetious question.

I was pondering the fact that drafts are inherently unpredictable, and you have Sanchez slotted at #9. If by some miracle each team went exactly according to your proposed slotting system, the Packers would choose Sanchez. I found that to be an intriguing idea. Dfosterf mentioned recently that he'd want to personally run Ted Thompson out of town were he to choose a running back in the first round, so I found myself wondering what the uproar in Green Bay would be like if Thompson drafted yet another rookie quarterback -- in the first round no less? And if he did, whom would he choose to dangle as trade bait: Sanchez himself or one of our backups?

Please assume good faith unless you have solid evidence to the contrary. If you suspect someone is being snarky, at least ask have the courtesy to ask him to clarify his comments before flying off the handle.

P.S. I greatly appreciate all the hard work and effort you put into assembling this draft board. I don't think I would have had that kind of patience.
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dfosterf
16 years ago
This is a good opportunity for me to remind my fellow members of an outstanding website as the draft draws near. It is worth the time and effort to read how they go about their business, and also to learn how you can manipulate the findings in order to account for various "what-if" scenarios, and you can also manipulate the assumptions as regards need.

I can tell you that their system has been uncannily accurate in the past.

I don't think they have a provision for it, but I did print out their "Big Board" and "Top Ten by positions" back in December... I like to track the movement, especially in light of how they go about their business with largely algorithms vs. emotions and prejudices.

Drafttek link 
Pack93z
16 years ago
Think of it as a player ranking moreso.. a weighted graded value chart.

It is entirely different than a mock.. the intention is to give an overall where a player is slotted, since every teams value and need draft board is different, this is intended as an overall guide.

IE.. Foster looking for 3rd round linebackers.. this ranking would give an idea of which backers may be available in the 3rd.. based on pure rankings..

Not a mock.

When I had more time in the offseason.. and was able to watch more college ball, I had a very similar draft board.. then would try and match the Packers needs to the board and come up with a guess to whom we may be looking at with each selection.. a grouping of 5 to 10 players that fit in correspondence to our slot/selection.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
dfosterf
16 years ago

Think of it as a player ranking moreso.. a weighted graded value chart.

It is entirely different than a mock.. the intention is to give an overall where a player is slotted, since every teams value and need draft board is different, this is intended as an overall guide.

IE.. Foster looking for 3rd round linebackers.. this ranking would give an idea of which backers may be available in the 3rd.. based on pure rankings..

Not a mock.

When I had more time in the offseason.. and was able to watch more college ball, I had a very similar draft board.. then would try and match the Packers needs to the board and come up with a guess to whom we may be looking at with each selection.. a grouping of 5 to 10 players that fit in correspondence to our slot/selection.

"pack93z" wrote:



+1


There is some danger in tracking this as described by Z.

For example, take Raji and Brace.

Let's go back to December:

On Drafttek's big board, they were rated 50th and 141st, respectively. This, after all the games had been played, and YES, they do account for 3-4 vs. 4-3 defenses, etc. ...as a matter of fact, they delve into "specialty" players moreso than just about anyone.

Look at where they are now. Keep in mind that they move based on other folks making selections...kind of a "California Cheez- squared" operation, and they refine everything, including where they get their raw data, based on past performances of the folks doing the input.
CaliforniaCheez
16 years ago
Hey dfosterf, Thank you for that link.

That site forms a big board similar to what I do. They don't reveal who or how many inputs they use. I naturally appreciate their methodoloy.

I noticed that where there is a difference with mine the numbers between the players is very small. I may have to change my tiebreakers.

I didn't put up that much of my spread sheet in order to lessen the confusion (as did they).

Let me point out for example, that the end of the first round beginning of the second the players are very close. The differences between say Michael Johnson, Eben Britton, and Evander Hood are very small.

To me that indicates a good spot for a team to trade down.


The Packers happen to be right near the edge of a bigger drop off in the first round. The difference between say Jeremy Maclin and Michael Oher is fairly substantial. I don't think Ted will trade down his first pick for that reason.

The middle of the second round there is a large drop off. The difference between say DJ Moore and Duke Robinson is rather large. Yet late in the second round again they get rather close say picks 56 to 65.

In the late third and very early fourth round they are close but between say 104 and 110 there is a large drop. That might be incentive for some teams after the drops to move up a short distance.

Looking at the numbers one can see certain patterns emerging.

Some players like Jamon Meredith OT of SC are very consistent in where they are ranked (My 5 have him from 57 to 61) while some like Ramses Barden are not (My 5 go from 56 to 111).

It appears to me that Draftek weighs CBS Sports (the broadcasting company) rather highly.

Anyway it is an art not a science. Some players get good reviews like Justin Harrell while ofthers like Josh Sitton are called a reach. Yet they suprise both good and bad.

Sometimes a 7th round compensatory pick performs better than the #2 overall as the Saints found out with Reggie Bush.

That's why it is fascinating and fun.
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CaliforniaCheez
16 years ago
FYI

The list has been updated/edited.

Names to note

#1
I think CB Jenkins is the best pick if still on the board at #9.

Trading back could get him DE Tyson Jackson.

#2

OT Beatty or CB Sean Smith would be good picks.

A trade down could get him NT Ron Brace.


#3A

Alex Magee NT Purdue

Lewis Keenan CB OR ST

Cornelius Ingram TE FL


#3B

Several CB's available here.

Trading back can get him

Travis Beckham TE WI

Jonathan Luigs C AZ

Gerald Cadogan OT Penn ST


#4

Fenuki Tupou OT OR

Xaivier Fulton OT IL

Ricky Francois DE/DT LSU

Trade Down possibilities are:

Terrence Taylor NT MI

Jason Watkins OT FL
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