Zero2Cool
a year ago
- Mike Evans
- Tee Higgins
- Tyler Boyd
- Marquise Brown
- Calvin Ridley
- Michael Pittman Jr
- Kendrick Bourne
- Darnell Mooney
- Odell Beckham
- Curtis Samuel

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beast
a year ago
Do you think they'd sign a FA WR?

They seem pretty young and talented at WR to me, I think I'd be more looking OL, DL, RB and S. (Maybe slot CB too).

There I'd be looking at

C/OG Conner Williams, Dolphins
I'm sure he'd prefer to resign with the income tax free state Dolphins, but the Dolphins (Bills, Chargers and Saints) are currently in the negative for 2024 cap space, not to say they couldn't do Cap Magic and open some up to resign guys

DT DJ Reeder, Bengals
Packers need a physical a physical run stopper and the Bengals have a number of guys that need to be resigned and have seemingly been focused on offense, letting some star defensive guys go.

RB Derrick Henry, Titans
LaFleaur's former RB and Titans have been shopping him the last two seasons, rumor is the Ravens almost had a deal done and they're the favorites to sign Henry. But there is also Josh Jacobs, Raiders and a number of others. Also it's possible the Saints release RB Jamaal Williams to free up cap space and Williams could be fairly cheap.

S Rudy Ford, Packers
Probably should resign him, but there are also a good number of Safety on the market, probably most well known to Packers fans will be Micah Hyde, Bills, but there are also younger options in Alohi Gilman, Geno Stone, Xavier McKinney, Julian Blackmon




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buckeyepackfan
a year ago
I am trying to remember the last time a FA wr was signed by the Packers and really made a difference.

I may be wrong, but I have to go all the way back to Andre Rison.
That was an in season pick up, when nobody really wanted him.

There was Desmond Howard the same year, he was kr/pr for The Packers, not really a wr.

I like the guys Gute has brought in the last 2 years, get through the growing pains and the future at wr looks bright.

The Packers are still a year away from getting out of their self imposed cap hell.
I hope they concentrate on locking down the current guys they want to keep, then take a look around after next year's draft.

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Mucky Tundra
a year ago
Would love to get Pittman but I doubt the Colts let him come close to being a free agent (and if he does some team will back a dump truck filled with cash up to him).
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Do you think they'd sign a FA WR?

Originally Posted by: beast 


I think 2023 was the year to sign a free agent WR for the kids to learn from. If the Packers think they're a WR2/3 away from high powered offense, I could see it.
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dhazer
a year ago
I would like to see them grab Curtis Samuel to help mentor Reed and Wicks as those 2 I believe will become a huge part of the offense. I think Reed would benefit the most from him as Samuel is used a lot for running plays also. Like I said maybe a veteran just to mentor a little more as these guys have no one with experience to ask questions to.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I would like to see them grab Curtis Samuel to help mentor Reed and Wicks as those 2 I believe will become a huge part of the offense. I think Reed would benefit the most from him as Samuel is used a lot for running plays also. Like I said maybe a veteran just to mentor a little more as these guys have no one with experience to ask questions to.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


I think any WR that is a technician at the position is super helpful. And by that mean I someone who knows how to study film, identify DB's weaknesses, self correction, etc ... someone who doesn't have a plethora of god given talent, but has that work ethic that makes them indispensable. A Donald Driver type and yeah I know he had world class high jumping, but that was first name that came to mind.
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beast
a year ago

I think any WR that is a technician at the position is super helpful. And by that mean I someone who knows how to study film, identify DB's weaknesses, self correction, etc ... someone who doesn't have a plethora of god given talent, but has that work ethic that makes them indispensable. A Donald Driver type and yeah I know he had world class high jumping, but that was first name that came to mind.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


True, but isn't that a coaches job first? And there is no cap limit on coaches... if we need that, couldn't we simply hire more or better coaches?

A veteran can surely help young players too, but that's more of a second or third item or job for them.

Packers talked about bringing in a veteran WR for the young to bounce ideas off of... but they never did this year, and the young WRs should be one more year developed next year and not needing it.

I wonder if the Packers could potentially bring TE Lewis and/or Cobb back as paid coaching interns. Though they probably wouldn't be interested, but you never know.


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Zero2Cool
a year ago

True, but isn't that a coaches job first? And there is no cap limit on coaches... if we need that, couldn't we simply hire more or better coaches?

Originally Posted by: beast 


I'm just falling back on the numerous stories I've heard where veteran players working with young players helped turn the corner for them.

I'm not sure on this, but I think coaches have a limited amount of access to players where player to player is essentially unlimited.

Also, if a coach wasn't a player before, the coach might not be able to pick up on certain nuances that a former/current player does.

But I do agree. It should be the coach. I just think a veteran WR does wonders for the WR group.
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beast
a year ago

I'm just falling back on the numerous stories I've heard where veteran players working with young players helped turn the corner for them.

I'm not sure on this, but I think coaches have a limited amount of access to players where player to player is essentially unlimited.

Also, if a coach wasn't a player before, the coach might not be able to pick up on certain nuances that a former/current player does.

But I do agree. It should be the coach. I just think a veteran WR does wonders for the WR group.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Fair point, while reading your comments I got a flashback to an article about Bears starting OL, RG Kyle Long and RT Bobby Massie.

Basically their general opinion seemed to be, position coaches don't know shit... we're not listening to them, we're listening to this retired Hall of Famer OL whom we work with during the off-season. He's been to the top for the mountain and knows what he's talking about, coaches don't know shit.

I was just taken back than attitude, because what if things have changed from that guy's decade to now? There is a hell lot more zone blocking today, where before the 90s Broncos there was maybe none. And it took over a decade to really catch on.

On the other hand, I've had some very stupid coaches too (of course they were "volunteer" coaches, and not paid coaches, but still, the guy, during tackling drills, stopped the drill, made us watch as he criticize the best tackler on the team, making him re-do the drill, and then later stopped the drill and praised the guy whom literally doesn't give a shit and doesn't know how to do anything, and made us stop anf watch him tackle with absolutely no form)... Basically the volunteer coach wanted us to run at full speed into the tackling dummy, without breaking down or any form, just run right over it, falling on it. Which is great... you know, as long as the tackling target can't move.


But supposedly these NFL players openly thought their many position coaches over the years knew absolutely nothing, compared to the retired Hall of Famer. And I don't know what either of them said or what they disagreed on, so I don't know whom I would consider right.


But there have since been rumors that have come out that suggest Aaron Rodgers thought Mike McCarthy had a fairly low football I.Q. supposedly based on conversation Rodgers has had away from the team facilities. Not saying it's true or false, but that's the rumor.

So I guess it's possible that players could think their coaches are idiots.

And I think the Bears OL was during the time after Lovie Smith, where a number of the Bears and coaching staff seemed to be butting heads. I specifically remember on defense, where the players complained they used to have a complex defense with calls for everything that the offense might do. But now, in the overly simplified defense, the offense can line up, or motion to something unexpected, and they're screwed in the current play call, but have no audible to get out of that bad play, back to their base, and so they're just screwed whenever they get caught in that look and the offense does that trick. Where previously they get audible in or out of everything, to get them the base chances based on what they saw pre-snap.

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