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At one point you could trace every offense in the NFL to either Bill Walsh, Don Coryell, or Ron Earhardt/Ray Perkins. Meanwhile, almost every defensive coordinator in the NFL worked with someone from the Dick LaBeau tree or the Tony Dungy tree or the Bill Parcells tree. When NFL coaches innovate successful systems and concepts, other teams try to copy them immediately and eventually, the best branches from the original tree make their way across the NFL. 

Evaluating what systems the teams in the NFC North will be using this year is a good way to foresee how the team will perform. Let's go over them. 


Minnesota Vikings


Offense

The Vikings have gone all in on the McVay offense, minus the wide zone setups. Head Coach Kevin O'Connell was offensive coordinator for the Rams in the year that they revamped their offense for Matt Stafford, turning to a ton of empty and a lot of Cooper Kupp targeting, and that is the offense that O'Connell brought to Minnesota. It is similar to early Rams McVay and what Matt LaFleur runs, but it's certainly more aggressive and pass-centric.

The Vikings doubled down on that system this off-season, releasing running back Dalvin Cook and using their first-round pick on a running back who at least drives fast. It's a bold strategy when your QB is Krik Cousins, but it worked well enough for him to have a top 10 PFF grade and star on a Netflix show. Of course, a top-10 Kirk Cousins didn't even spell a top-20 weighted offensive DVOA, so maybe we should expect some level of regression for the team in the win/loss column. 


Defense

The Vikings are going from probably the most passive zone coverage defense in the league last season to one of the most aggressive man coverage defensive coordinators in the league. Brian Flores majored in Cover-0 in Miami and comes from the Bill Belichick Cover-1 tree. Minnesota doesn't really have the manpower in the secondary to play cover-0 or really even cover-1 more than 15-20 snaps a game, so it's possible Flores will evolve, but right now it looks like the team will be blitz heavy this season. 


Chicago Bears


Offense

Luke Getsy's formative years were spent on Mike McCarthy, Joe Moorhead, and Matt LaFleur. Moorhead is a spread guru who is hailed as one of the main RPO innovators in college football. With the Bears, Getsy has leaned more into Moorhead offense than anything Mike McCarthy or Matt LaFleur did in Green Bay. Of course, that is probably more of a result of his personnel (Justin Fields and no one else) than his personal preferences. 

I would expect the team to continue to major in spread QB run concepts and RPOs this year, but also start to add more and more of the Shanahan scheme that Getsy learned from LaFleur. 


Defense

Matt Eberflus learned the Tampa-2 defense from (Joe Barry's father-in-law) Rod Marinelli in Dallas. While Eberflus runs a lot more Cover-3 than Marinelli did, the basic strategy is the same - rush four, stunt on the defensive line, and play deep zone coverage. Sound familiar? The Tampa-2 defense is very similar to the Fangio scheme that has spread across the league over the past few years. It's not as popular as Fangio's because Peyton Manning murdered it in the oughts. 

Eberflus ran a good defense in Indy, but, like the offense, the Bears just don't have the personnel to run it well. Eberflus will likely need to adapt the scheme this year to attempt to bring more pressure from the second level. 


Detroit Lions


Offense

Like Kevin O'Connell, Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson has stolen the McVay/Stafford passing scheme. Unlike Kevin O'Connell, Johnson has merged it with one of the most diverse run games in the league. The Lions took the league by storm last year thanks to their aggressive pass offense and creative run game. Johnson rode the success to several head coach interviews before deciding to come back to Detroit for one more year. 

The Lions' offense is somewhat of a mystery going into the year. Jared Goff centric offenses tend to regress after the league has a year of tape to study and the Lions replaced their running back stable with slow Jordan Howard and more-of-a-wide receiver Jamhyr Gibbs. If Johnson really does have the goods to be next Guru head coach, the Lions won't miss a beat in year 2 of him running the offense and will continue to evolve to use Gibbs and Howard (and exciting rookie tight end Sam LaPorta) in more and more creative ways. We'll see.


Defense

Like Brian Flores with the Vikings and Matt Eberflus with the Bears, Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn was forced to run his head into the wall trying to run his scheme (an aggressive press-man scheme combined with a lot of quarters and creative blitzing) with inferior talent. Around halfway through last season, Glenn did what Vikings and Bears fans hope to see this year, and adapted. By the end of the season, the team had improved enough to go from last in defensive DVOA to 23rd in weighted defensive DVOA.

Glenn's changes after the Lions' bye certainly contributed to the team going from 1-6 to 9-8. The defense used far less press man and basically stopped blitzing in the second half of the season. It will be interesting to see which system Glenn goes with in 2023. The team spent the offseason building up its secondary, spent a first-round pick on an off-ball linebacker, and has a few guys on the defensive line ready to take the next step. Will he go back to the Gregg Williams scheme and bring pressure from everywhere with his corners on islands? Or will he stick to the more modern scheme, putting an umbrella over the deep part of the field with zone coverage and stick to four-man rushes? 

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CheeseheadTV wrote:



Interesting read, basically all NFC North Teams run different versions of wide zone scheme on offense. With the Vikings basically forgetting about the run the most, and Bears leading on spread and read option with their run QB and lack of weapons in past years.

On defense, Vikings going from the most conservative scheme to one of the most aggressive, but do they have to DBs to hold up in it?

Lions want to play extremely aggressive but haven't had the DBs to get it done. And Lions switching to a more conservative approach with only rushing four helped turn around their season last year. Which will they run this year?

Bears and Packers have pretty much run conservative schemes with rushing four and play zone coverage.


Though, I think we might be seeing some signs that Joe Berry is trying to pull the Vic Fangio 49ers and Bears defenses out with some up front changes to let them be more aggressive and more attacking.
 
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
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