beast
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a year ago
Based ony (limited) understand of this graph, Packers are expected (by PFF) to have the 4th most relaxing schedule compared to the team's previous year's schedule.

Just to be clear, not the 4th easiest (which would be straight down), but 4th easiest compared to the previous year (which would be bottom right corner).

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https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-strength-of-schedule-rankings-2023 

 
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Zero2Cool
a year ago
Every team changes every season. There's like what 20%-40% roster/coach turnover each franchise? How can we use last seasons anything to this current season? I just cannot get behind the strength of schedule stuff. And this topic reminded me of that. The 2023 Packers aren't playing the 2022 (insert team).
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beast
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a year ago

Every team changes every season. There's like what 20%-40% roster/coach turnover each franchise? How can we use last seasons anything to this current season? I just cannot get behind the strength of schedule stuff. And this topic reminded me of that. The 2023 Packers aren't playing the 2022 (insert team).

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Great point!

Though in schedule predictions, I believe I had the Packers going 10-7... mainly because I thought the schedule looked weaker (but as you said, those teams could be much better this year), but also had Packers 2-4 and finishing 3rd in the division.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

Great point!

Though in schedule predictions, I believe I had the Packers going 10-7... mainly because I thought the schedule looked weaker (but as you said, those teams could be much better this year), but also had Packers 2-4 and finishing 3rd in the division.

Originally Posted by: beast 


When doing my schedule prediction, I focus more on what the Packers are than what other teams are. I follow Packers closely (duh right?),  but other teams who might go from a DC who's conservative to one that is aggressive -- I'm not considering how that might fluster a first year starting QB vs a veteran QB. I mean, I'm aware of that stuff, but I do have a tiny bit of a life outside of football! I can't do that for all what 12-13 opponents? haha

But the media world needs something to talk about so here we are. I think my gripe is half way through the season it's used as a punching bag narrative against teams. Comments like "well, they had the weakest schedule and still are only 4-7 so they really underachieved".  How convenient, right? They put a team a perceived pedestal, just to talk shit about that team not meeting "their" established expectations. Sports bruh, sports.
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beast
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a year ago

But the media world needs something to talk about so here we are. I think my gripe is half way through the season it's used as a punching bag narrative against teams. Comments like "well, they had the weakest schedule and still are only 4-7 so they really underachieved".  How convenient, right? They put a team a perceived pedestal, just to talk shit about that team not meeting "their" established expectations. Sports bruh, sports.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Absolutely! And towards middle to later season, at times.it has annoyed me they have not switched from last seasons strength of schedule to the current years strength of schedule or strength of victory, or something in the current year.

Week 1 is always weird... some teams seem ready to play, others aren't... sometimes the teams that barely win all year get that win in week 1. So I try to throw that out once you get enough data points after it, but say starting week 6 with data points from weeks 2-5 is enough to start looking at the current year, but they still look at the past year.
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buckeyepackfan
a year ago
I never buy into the "strength of schedule", to many variables that change teams throughout the year.
Injuries being  #1.

Quite frequently it's not who a team plays, it's when when they play them.

Then as things start to sort themselves out, come week 17 and 18, there are teams who may be resting players, or teams who are tanking. Which I never agree with, but it does happen.
What I do like comparing The 2022 Packer Schedule to this years is.......
1. A lot less travel.
2. Many games being scheduled in the early slot on Sundays. The NFL is filled with creatures of habit, especially for this years Packers being so young on offense, it will a benefit to them to stsy on a somewhat regular schedule.
I am hoping for a fast start the 1st 5 weeks.
I think that The Packers will be ready and could surprise The NFL by going 4-1 or may I be bold , 5-0.
They get rid of 1 Thur. Night game and I Mon. Night game before the week six bye.

At 4-1 , The Packers would reach 10 wins by playing :500 ball for the rest of the year.

I believe The Packers can do this, as long as the "injury bug"  doesn't bite to hard.


 
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nerdmann
a year ago
League might be trying to help Love develop a little bit. Packers have a nationwide following, sell plenty of merch. Gotta keep those revenue streams alive. 

Softer schedule, week 6 bye. 

Good season for Love to get his feet wet.
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beast
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a year ago

League might be trying to help Love develop a little bit. Packers have a nationwide following, sell plenty of merch. Gotta keep those revenue streams alive. 

Softer schedule, week 6 bye. 

Good season for Love to get his feet wet.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You do realize that NFL opponents are predetermined by division, rotating schedule and what spot you finished in the division the previous year, right?

NFL makes the schedules, but they don't select which teams will be opponents in a given year.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

You do realize that NFL opponents are predetermined by division, rotating schedule and what spot you finished in the division the previous year, right?

NFL makes the schedules, but they don't select which teams will be opponents in a given year.

Originally Posted by: beast 



It's like ... it ... is ... all ... SCRIPTED!!!
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nerdmann
a year ago

It's like ... it ... is ... all ... SCRIPTED!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Start us out slow, with that week 6 bye, go from there.
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packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
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