In 2022 they rated as top 5 if just count the second half of the season. 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Not my fault. I'm just going by the numbers. 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Dunno if this is true, but I heard that in the last 9 games, the defense was top 5. If just calculated from there.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

His 2021 was better than his 2022...

Also, why do people always seem to believe we have the defensive players and it's just the coaching failing? The lack of talent on defense absolutely has had something to do with it at times, and not always the coaches.

Though, I do believe in 2022 coaching way a large part of it.... including Barry and Jerry Gray feuding over something and the DBs getting emotional involved and trashing Barry to the media and maybe not playing to 100% of their abilities, which I believe was subconscious not consciously, but supposedly after Gray (who's not a yeller) but once he yelled at them, they played a lot better.


But I'm also wondering why the Safety play fell off the face of the earth. I can't tell that they were asked to do anything different...

The assistant DB coach did get a new title as the S coach, but I think (I don't know, I just think) his duties stayed the same... just title and maybe paycheck went up.


Also, according to he news articles, once Barry listened to the defensive front to keep it simple, they started playing better.

Originally Posted by: beast 

What numbers? Please share these numbers and source of the numbers with us... thank you.
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Because now it seems to be implied it's factual information, when previously, it was just something heard...

You previously said


So is this something you heard? Or are you "just going by the numbers"?

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Edit: Added some stuff after research 

Here are some numbers, Packers were 17th in team defensive yardage in both points and yardage for the 2022 season according to ESPN

https://www.espn.com/nfl/stats/team/_/view/defense/table/passing/sort/totalPointsPerGame/dir/asc 

No chance I'm about to do this for every team, but just for the Packers in the last 9 games, they game up 198 points. Which is about 22 points per game. 


Now this is not apples to apples but compared to the full season, that would be 19th in the NFL... where again, Packers were 17th with 21.8 points per game.

So Packers actually did worse in points the last 9 games than the first 8 games, by 0.2 points and now top 16.

So for any chance of this rumor to be remotely true.... it would have to be either...

1) Top 5 defense in yardage ... which honestly IMO, team yardage doesn't matter, team points do.

Or 

2) A different period of time... like say the last 4 or 5 games where they did average under 18 points a game. While facing the Bears, Rams, Dolphins, Vikings and Lions.

Where the Bears tanked, Rams were injury destroyed, Dolphins QB couldn't be stopped until a concussion where he then couldn't stop throwing INTs.

On the bright side is the Vikings and Lions games... kept both of them under 21 points.



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Originally Posted by: beast 

When the coach has to step in and tell u how to do your job mideseason, something tells me we have a very mediocre coordinator. Theres really nothing that Barry has done to show he is remotely good. He had one good year his first year and then needed to be told how to do his job half way through tje season last year. Im 100% sure this year we will be like the Packers of the old where our D will be bottom of ghe barrel. No one fears Joe Barry coached defenses

Originally Posted by: bboystyle