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a year ago

I might have one or two games flip flopped, but I'm good with my record prediction. The last time (if you ignore 2015 & 2016) the Packers won 10 games I believe they won the Super Bowl. YOU HEARD ME!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


No correlation equation. 16 games are not equal to 17 games.
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a year ago

I feel my 10-7 prediction is best case scenario, and they're likely to make some errors and lose two to three close games as the youngest team in the last six years learns and grow (and coaches also grow and figure out what they have and how to best use it, as looks of new players on offense and I think the defensive scheme is getting some major tweaks).


Also, other than the 2017 Rams, the 10 other youngest teams since 2015 have all had losing records. Rams got to 68.75% wins. Interesting then offensive coordinator Matt LaFleaur and Assistant Head Coach and LB coach Joe Barry were on that 2017 Rams team.

Looks like only 4 of the 10 youngest teams since 2015 have gotten to 30% wins. 3 over 35%. Only 2 over 40%. 1 over 45%.

9 wins = over 50%
8 wins = over 45%
7 wins = over 40%
6 wins = basically 35%
5 wins = UNDER 30%

So they need 5 wins to be in the top half of the youngest teams. 8 wins to be in the top 2. And 12 wins to be #1.

I think they can get that #2 spot.



Originally Posted by: beast 




I've been hearing and reading about how "young" the Packers are. It's misleading. They are young but there is experience mixed all throughout the offense and defense.
OFFENSE

LT Bak not young @ 11 seasons
LG Jenkins 5 seasons
C Myers 3 seasons
RG RJR 4 seasons
LT Tom 2 seasons
Backup OL Nijman 4 seasons, Newman 3 seasons

WR Watson 2 seasons, Doubs 2 seasons
Other WRs Reed R, Heath R

RB Jones 7 seasons, Dillon 4 seasons

TE Musgrave R
Backup Deguara 4 seasons

QB Love 4 seasons

DE Clark 8 seasons, Wyatt 2 seasons
NT Slaton 3 seasons
DL Wooden R, Brooks R

EDGE Smith 9 seasons, Gary 5 seasons
Others Van Ness R, Hollins 5 seasons

ILB Campbell 8 seasons, Walker 2 seasons
Other McDuffie 3 seasons

CB JA 6 seasons, Douglas 7 seasons
Other CBs Nixon 5 seasons, Stokes 3 seasons

S Savage 5 seasons, Ford 7 seasons
Other S Owens 5 seasons, Johnson R

There is a nice mix of seasoned veterans and youth.
The NFL average career lasts 3.3 years.
Personally I would say the sweet spot between youth and experience is around 4 or 5 seasons.
The NFL attributes the full season upfront so the "seasons played" listed above are slightly askew but the numbers are from the Packers website.
While Jordan is listed as this being his 4th season I know as does everyone this is his first year as the starting QB. That said the last 3 seasons as the backup are not nothing. He worked. He acquired knowledge.
I understand people hate Nijman and Newman but don't look for them to play much.
I don't know which WR will be WR4. It really won't matter in the greater scheme of things because they will not be on the field that often unless to block.
Deguara will get more snaps than Kraft.
The DL will probably have more inexperience issues with a heavy rotation of Wooden and Brooks. (Sounds like a country duo.) That's where Smith and Gary will have to be a strength.
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Zero2Cool
a year ago

I've been hearing and reading about how "young" the Packers are. It's misleading. They are young but there is experience mixed all throughout the offense and defense.

Originally Posted by: wpr 


How is it misleading? They are one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. They are young. As for experience, well, that's a different story that I haven't read yet. I think there's a difference between being young and being inexperienced. Perhaps that is just semantics though?

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How is it misleading? They are one of the three youngest teams in the NFL. They are young. As for experience, well, that's a different story that I haven't read yet. I think there's a difference between being young and being inexperienced. Perhaps that is just semantics though?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There are some who imply that being young is a bad thing. They look at the average age of the team and don't attribute experience to the key/core players.
I tried to point out that while the overall team is young the starters for the most part have as much experience as most NFL teams.
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dhazer
a year ago
2023 Packers Opponents

Home ( 7-1 )
W - Bears
W - Lions
W - Vikings
W - Buccaneers
L - Chiefs
W - Chargers
W - Rams
W - Saints


Away (5-4 )
W - @Bears
L - @Lions
L - @Vikings
W - @Broncos
W - @Falcons
L - @Giants
W - @Panthers
W - @Raiders
L - @Steelers



I'm going 12-5 and win the division
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Mucky Tundra
a year ago
Game by game? IDK but 10-7.
“Nah. I like having the island. It’s pretty cool...not too many visitors”
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"I’ve got it." -Aaron Rodgers
Zero2Cool
a year ago
  • (1-0) W - @Bears
  • (2-0) W - @Falcons
  • (3-0) W - Saints
  • (4-0) W - Lions
  • (5-0) W - @Raiders
  • (5-1) L - @Broncos
  • (6-1) W - Vikings
  • (7-1) W - Rams
  • (8-1) W - @Steelers
  • (8-2) L - Chargers
  • (8-3) L - @Lions
  • (8-4) L - Chiefs
  • (9-4) W - Buccaneers
  • (9-5) L - @Giants
  • (9-6) L - @Panthers
  • (9-7) L - @Vikings
  • (10-7) W - Bears


I re-ordered mine to match the schedule and 😬
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beast
a year ago

Starting to run out of time, if anyone wants to make predictions before the season starts.


W - @ Bears (1-0)
L - @ Falcons (1-1)
W - Saints (2-1)
L - Lions (2-2)
W - @ Raiders (3-2)
Bye 

L - @ Broncos (3-3)
W - Vikings (4-3)
W - Rams (5-3)
L - @ Steelers (5-4) 

W - Chargers (6-4)
L - @ Lions (6-5)
L - Chiefs (6-6)
W - @Giants (7-6) 

W - Buccaneers (8-6)
W - @ Panthers (9-6)
L - @ Vikings (9-7)
W - Bears (10-7) 

Home 6-2
Away 4-5

Originally Posted by: beast 



So far, I'm 3 for 3 in end results.

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beast
a year ago

  • (1-0) W - @Bears
  • (2-0) W - @Falcons
  • (3-0) W - Saints
  • (4-0) W - Lions
  • (5-0) W - @Raiders
  • (5-1) L - @Broncos
  • (6-1) W - Vikings
  • (7-1) W - Rams
  • (8-1) W - @Steelers
  • (8-2) L - Chargers
  • (8-3) L - @Lions
  • (8-4) L - Chiefs
  • (9-4) W - Buccaneers
  • (9-5) L - @Giants
  • (9-6) L - @Panthers
  • (9-7) L - @Vikings
  • (10-7) W - Bears


I re-ordered mine to match the schedule and 😬

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


The long streaks like that is why I like to see it in schedule order.

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beast
a year ago

Starting to run out of time, if anyone wants to make predictions before the season starts.


W - @ Bears (1-0)
L - @ Falcons (1-1)
W - Saints (2-1)
L - Lions (2-2)
W - @ Raiders (3-2)
Bye 

L - @ Broncos (3-3)
W - Vikings (4-3)
W - Rams (5-3)
L - @ Steelers (5-4) 

W - Chargers (6-4)
L - @ Lions (6-5)
L - Chiefs (6-6)
W - @Giants (7-6) 

W - Buccaneers (8-6)
W - @ Panthers (9-6)
L - @ Vikings (9-7)
W - Bears (10-7) 

Home 6-2
Away 4-5

Originally Posted by: beast 



Losing sucks, but we're still currently on track.

Though right now I'm thinking I might be 100% for the first quarter, and maybe 0% for the second season quarter lol

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Zero2Cool (2h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (2h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (2h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
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packerfanoutwest (3h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (3h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (3h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (3h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (3h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (3h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (3h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (3h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (3h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (3h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (3h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (3h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (3h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (3h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (3h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (3h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (3h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (3h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (3h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (3h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (4h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (4h) : Packers will get in
beast (4h) : If Packers lose the rest of their games and Falcons win the rest of theirs, they could pass us... but not gonna happen
packerfanoutwest (4h) : they still are in the playoffs
packerfanoutwest (4h) : If Packers lose the remaining games,,,,at 10-7
Zero2Cool (5h) : We can say it. We don't play.
Mucky Tundra (7h) : But to say they are in is looking past the Saints
Mucky Tundra (7h) : That said, their odds are very favorable with a >99% chance of making the playoffs entering this week's games
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Mucky Tundra (16h) : Getting help would have been nice, but helping ourselves should always be the plan
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bboystyle (17h) : We just need to win Monday night and were in
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Or ties, but let's be real here
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Other scenario was Falcons+Rams losses
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Needed a Falcons loss for a Seahawk loss to clinch
buckeyepackfan (20h) : Am I wring in saying if Tge Vikings beat The Seahawks, The Packers clinch?
Mucky Tundra (21-Dec) : Agreed; you stinks
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