Sounds like Allen Lazard wants "next place"

Zero2Cool
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2 years ago

What you think about his comments?

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wpr
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2 years ago

It only makes sense for Lazard to look for a new team. If I understand correctly the Packers have not made an offer.
The Packers on the other hand probably want him to return but at their price. I figure they see him as their WR3, blocking WR. Watson and Doubs will have the chance to be the WR1 and 2.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

2 years ago

Everyone forgets Lazard is the guy who came in the same year MVS, EQ, and J. More were drafted.
Lazard was picked up after Jaguars dropped him from their practice squad.
All he did was outplay all of them, while making himself one of the best, if not the best blocking wr in the league and doing everything and anything The Packers asked of him.

JMHO, if The Packers let him walk away, HUGE MISTAKE!
Whether it's Aaron or J. Love at qb, a guy like Lazard is needed in that locker room!

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

Everyone forgets

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

No idea why but anytime someone starts off with this, just pisses me off. Massive generalizations and assumptions are just horse-doo-doo! I mean, everyone? Seriously? EVERYONE FORGOT? Oh, but except you. You're the magnanimous exceptional one, right?

Okay, my funny petty crap aside ...

When I listened to Allen Lazard talking, I couldn't help think about Desmond Howard after the 1996 season. The guy could have made the Hall of Fame as a returner (if he continued that dominance), but instead wanted to be a full fledged WR and that's why he joined the Raiders. Of course, you can't fault a guy for wanting to be more. The situations just feel somewhat similar.

Edit: Wow, that first part came off super asshole. That wasn't my intent. It was more so mocking myself for being petty. My bad if that was missed.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

2 years ago

The big difference is The Packers made a fair offer to Howard, he decided to go elsewhere.
As of now they haven't offered Lazard anything.
MAKE HIM A FAIR OFFER!!!!

I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

2 years ago

I just don't see his ask coming anywhere close to what we can afford. We've kicked the financial cap so far down the road where if we are in a rebuild/reload situation we need to get our financial house in order. I see us waiting until well into free agency and picking up a vet WR who may be had much cheaper than Lazard will be asking for.

nerdmann
Premier Member

2 years ago

The big difference is The Packers made a fair offer to Howard, he decided to go elsewhere.
As of now they haven't offered Lazard anything.
MAKE HIM A FAIR OFFER!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Raiders used to overpay for SB MVPs. Al Davis man. They would also draft for speed.

Lazard will come back at his own price, but the Packers won't pay him that much. Most Gute will pay is $6-8 but the Alien Lizard wants $12-15.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

2 years ago

The big difference is The Packers made a fair offer to Howard, he decided to go elsewhere.
As of now they haven't offered Lazard anything.
MAKE HIM A FAIR OFFER!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

True, but Desmond went elsewhere because he was promised a prominent role as WR. The Packers weren't ... well ... I do not remember so I cannot say. I just know that's why he left so I assumed Packers weren't gonna let him have a big role at WR. They felt he was too valuable at KR/PR.

wpr
Preferred Member

2 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yep.

bboystyle
Member

2 years ago

#10

The big difference is The Packers made a fair offer to Howard, he decided to go elsewhere.
As of now they haven't offered Lazard anything.
MAKE HIM A FAIR OFFER!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

What is considered fair to an average at best WR? 5 to 6 mil?

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