Zero2Cool
2 years ago

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GREEN BAY, Wis. – At times, Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers burns through timeouts like a three-pack-a-day smoker goes through Marlboros. Like a gambler burns through a stack of $20 bills. Like a sugar-craving kid blows through his stash of Halloween candy.

There’s no truth to the rumor that Rodgers’ favorite letter is “T,” though he uses that signal more than most – perhaps more than all – quarterbacks in the NFL.

During Sunday’s victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Rodgers used four timeouts with the play clock winding down – two in each half. It was the same story during the Week 2 victory over the Chicago Bears. In the season-opening game against Minnesota, Rodgers used two timeouts in the first half.

That’s 10 timeouts that had nothing to do with saving precious seconds on the clock.

Why? What is going through Rodgers’ head as those final seconds on the play clock drain away? In his mind, when is it the right time to call a timeout and when is it the right time to just run something, even if it’s not the best possible play?

“Quarter, momentum, d-and-d [down and distance] and score of the game, and then the feasibility of getting us into some positive play,” Rodgers explained on Wednesday. “You hate using them like we used a couple in the first half. Second half, you really think about, ‘What can I get us into in the situation to get a better play?’

“But there’s certain situations and scores and momentum where it is better to have a conversation on the sideline, make sure we got the perfect call and regroup instead of trying to force something. Sometimes, there’s a look that they give us on defense that we just can’t block up or it’s going to be a negative play and there’s not anything really to get into based on the formation we’re in and you’ve got to burn one and get in a better formation and change it up. It’s a feel. You take in all those factors.”

In all three games, Rodgers used two timeouts in the first half. Those timeouts, while obviously valuable, aren’t quite as precious. The second-half timeouts can be make or break. It’s perhaps worth noting Rodgers used two in the second half of the wins but kept all three in his back pocket at Minnesota so the defense could stop the clock in the waning moments.

The NFL keeps stats on everything. But not timeouts. While it’s not clear if Rodgers spends his timeouts like a drunken sailor in comparison to his peers, what is clear is the Packers like to … slow … the … game … down.

During a 12-year Major League Baseball career that spanned 1974 through 1985, Mike Hargrove was known as “The Human Rain Delay” for an every-pitch routine that consisted of stepping out of the batter’s box, adjusting his glove, adjusting his helmet, adjusting his sleeves and so on.

Rodgers and coach Matt LaFleur might be the NFL’s equivalent. Long gone are the days of Mike McCarthy’s cranking up the tempo and going no-huddle. In terms of seconds per play, the Packers ranked 28th in 2019 and 32nd in 2020, 2021 and 2022, according to Football Outsiders. In hopes of gleaning as much information as possible from the defense and his never-ending quest to find the right play, Rodgers and the Packers run a play every 31.58 seconds. That’s the slowest of the LaFleur era.

There’s a method to the madness. It must work, or LaFleur would yell something about more gas and less breaks.

Sometimes, however, it’s out of Rodgers’ control.

On the first one against the Bucs, Rodgers said, center Josh Myers made too many calls. By the time Myers was set, “there was 9 seconds on the clock with three head-bobs coming. That’s not enough time, because they were in a pressure look where I was going to have to make an adjustment.” The Fox camera caught Rodgers discussing it with Myers as it went to commercial.

On the second one, the skill-position players were lined up incorrectly. Rodgers tried to adapt but “it wasn’t worth it.”

Is the usage of timeouts maddening? Perhaps. Have end-of-half opportunities been squandered because there weren’t enough timeouts? Probably.

But this is Rodgers’ 15th season as the starter. He’s not going to change. It’s easy to see him pop a timeout with the play clock at 0 seconds midway through the first quarter and wonder if it might impact the team later. It’s impossible to know how many times those timeouts have either avoided a catastrophe or delivered a touchdown.

“You just have to gauge the situation,” Rodgers said. “How much you need the timeout, amount of time, what’s the value of taking a timeout? Does it override the value of just trying to get to something quickly in that moment?”

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2 years ago
It is very frustrating to watch the clock tick down to 1 second before the snap. At 10 seconds Aaron tries to draw the defense off sides. The laugh because they know he isn't going to run a play with so much time left.
I would like to see 5-8 times a game where they get to the line and snap the ball immediately. 15 seconds on the clock, they defense hasn't shifted to their "real" formation. They will be caught off guard.
To be fair, some of it is the sidelines waiting to get the play in soon enough. But most of it is Aaron trying to out think the defense. Just out play them.
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Cheesey
2 years ago
It's been frustrating me for years.
Other teams don't have that problem. Yet it happens all the time with us.
And like was said, 2nd half time outs may end up being crucial.
Why waste them? They have more than enough time to get a play off in my view.
Its not Rodgers first year in this offense. And at 15 seconds the headset in his helmet is turned off, so he's not waiting for the play call then.
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bboystyle
2 years ago
He utilizes the clock as much as possible to spot any disguises or changes in defense. Smart move? Yes but also damaging if he doesnt like what he sees and has to use a timeout because there isnt enough time to audible
dyeah_gb
2 years ago
I wonder how much running down the playclock consistently to 2 seconds helps with a silent snap count at away games.

It is frustrating though.
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dhazer
2 years ago

He utilizes the clock as much as possible to spot any disguises or changes in defense. Smart move? Yes but also damaging if he doesnt like what he sees and has to use a timeout because there isnt enough time to audible

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He isn't a rookie he has been in the league what 17 years? He shouldn't have to wait and see what defense they will be putting out there. Also, there is no reason they sit in the huddle until 12 seconds are left on the clock. This could also be a reason for so many sacks as the defense knows he has to snap the ball so they can get a jump. They know damn well the only time he will snap it fast is if they think they can get too many men on the field.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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bboystyle
2 years ago

He isn't a rookie he has been in the league what 17 years? He shouldn't have to wait and see what defense they will be putting out there. Also, there is no reason they sit in the huddle until 12 seconds are left on the clock. This could also be a reason for so many sacks as the defense knows he has to snap the ball so they can get a jump. They know damn well the only time he will snap it fast is if they think they can get too many men on the field.

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Being a rookie or vet has nothing to do with defenses disguising coverage and blitzes until seconds are left on the snap. I dont know what that comment even has to do with anything???
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

He isn't a rookie he has been in the league what 17 years? He shouldn't have to wait and see what defense they will be putting out there. Also, there is no reason they sit in the huddle until 12 seconds are left on the clock. This could also be a reason for so many sacks as the defense knows he has to snap the ball so they can get a jump. They know damn well the only time he will snap it fast is if they think they can get too many men on the field.

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It's called a pre-snap disguise. Both offenses and defenses show one thing and at the snap show another. It's why he likes the hard count. It shows LB's or S's intentions. It could be done with more than 4 seconds on the play clock though.
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