beast
2 years ago
Hey despite Zero2Cool's lack of faith, I got one pick correct 😁


1) Edge Jermaine Johnson II, Florida State
1) DT Devonte Wyatt, Georgia

1) DT Devonte Wyatt, Georgia
Wyatt didn't get as much attention as some others on the DL as he's the small one at 6'3" 315lbs, but of their interior guys he was their best pass rushers.

I just love the idea of getting four great guys on the DL with Gary, Clark, Wyatt and Johnson for long time.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Brian Gutekunst hasn't drafted someone over 22 years old in round one. I don't think that changes this year.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




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beast
2 years ago


We have no idea what Wyatt (or Walker) is going to be. He could be a stud. He might take two years to provide and production. He might retire in December. No one knows anything yet, but for the love of God, it is OK to be excited about rookies. This kid should help the Packers defense. As Aaron Rodgers said yesterday, DEFENSE WINS CHAPIONSHIPS.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Absolutely, also DTs usually seem to suck as rookies and come on after their rookie years, I think they need a year to adjust to NFL OL vs college, the strength and quickness.

Of course, at times there are exceptions, but I try to never expect much from a rookie DT (well rookies in general, but especially DTs).


But I'm very excited, I've been waiting two stud DTs for a while and Clark is a natural NT (0,1 technique across from the center) and he's the best NT in the entire NFL. But he's also been the Packers pass rusher, and they've needed to put their best interior pass rusher at the 3 tech (outside OG shoulder), so they had to use Clark there, which I'm sure Clark loves as it's more of a flashy and fan notice role, but he's a natural NT, elite run stuffing with better pass rushing than any NT in the NFL.

But Wyatt can play the 3 tech which is his strength, and Clark can play the NT which is his strength. And if they stay healthy, Gary, Clark, Wyatt, Smith... someone (or two) is going to be getting one on ones!

Also with this scheme, Barry loves to have six man boxes (light against the run) and have 4 man pass rushes, these picks certainly help that.
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bboystyle
2 years ago
Love this pick over the Quay one. Our run defense just got better.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Hey despite Zero2Cool's lack of faith, I got one pick correct 😁

Originally Posted by: beast 



I completely avoided anyone over 22 with my round one picks. I also was confident no chance Packers draft ILB in round one after re-sigininig their All-Pro ILB.

You know nothing, Zero2Cool!!!
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beast
2 years ago

I completely avoided anyone over 22 with my round one picks. I also was confident no chance Packers draft ILB in round one after re-sigininig their All-Pro ILB.

You know nothing, Zero2Cool!!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 

Absolutely, and I was under the assumption that the Packers preferred using a Safety as the dime LB/S role as other than drafting ILB Burks they haven't seemed to even attempt to change it in over a decade... maybe two 🤔

So I thought they'd go for another Safety first, and Vikings did pick up Georgia's physical safety at #32.


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2 years ago
Oh that he were 2 years younger. 🤣
So arbitrary.
I gotta admit I would like it if he was younger but then another team would have snatched him before #20.
Domestic issues are odd to say the least. I know a guy who was in the middle of a divorce. His wife screamed and spit at him and in general made life miserable. Once when she blocked a doorway he put his hand on her should to squeeze past. That's assault. She laughed and ran to the phone and called the police. He was arrested.

It's kind of like ray Jennings in Draft Day. Just because the police come and charges are filed, it doesn't mean you did something wrong. Wyatt may have. I don't know what happened.
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beast
2 years ago

Domestic issues are odd to say the least.



I don't know how often Wyatt got in trouble, but I did read one article about what happened when he got arrested for domestic.

What happened was the cops got called for two people arguing, when they cops came tried to talk with them, they were outside, the girl stopped, the guy (Wyatt) walked away to his apartment building.

Sounded like they were BF and GF and each had their own building and room near each other (maybe dorms) but they were often sleeping in each other room.

They got in an argument while I'm his room, she left, and locked herself in her room. He followed, and he got aggressive with the door, trying to get her to open up the door. It didn't explain how they got from her door room to outside...


Though sounded like there wasn't any claims of touching each other in anger.

But the police found out they were cohabitating and there was damage (to her door) and it sounded like under the law of that jurisdiction, that can be considered domestic violence as there was some damaged property.

And I'm sure the police officers weren't happy about him walking away.

But I know states are getting stricter and stricter rules, because too often police were getting called and trying to calm everything down and/or making someone leave, and then once the cops were gone, the person would come back and it'd start all over again. So more laws about the police have to ensure someone isn't going to bother the other person for the next 12 hours or so, and the easiest way to do that is to order the police to arrest someone for the night if they can prove it's a domestic issue.


So allegedly he damaged a door... and not a person. That's not good... but it's not what most people think when they thinking domestic violence either. Also no word, on how damaged the door was... Like, did it simply have his show print on it, and need to be cleaned? Or did they have to fix anything? No word on that level.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Devonte Wyatt was surprising because I have NEVER seen Gute or Ted touch a player with a domestic violence history. Also were some academic issues at Georgia. Both huge red flags to me, and A LOT of teams had taken him off their draft boards. Gute says he dug deep on his character, I will accept that. It is concerning though.

I know some here will tell me the 3 or 4 incidences of domestic violence are no big deal. I should just shut up about it, because he is a good player. I will again say that it is concerning.

Hopefully, he has found the help he needs, and will be a welcome addition to the locker room.

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



Domestic Abuse isn't something to joke around about, but if you know anything about law, you know they have a lot of one-size fits all labels. I know first hand how asinine charge descriptions can be. I'd say what was on my record and get this wide-eye look and after 20 seconds of explaining, the reaction would be "they charged you with THAT??".

Trouble is, you weren't there, so you don't know what actually happened. You only get the (sometimes) arbitrary label the law applies.
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PackersNation
2 years ago

Domestic Abuse isn't something to joke around about, but if you know anything about law, you know they have a lot of one-size fits all labels. I know first hand how asinine charge descriptions can be. I'd say what was on my record and get this wide-eye look and after 20 seconds of explaining, the reaction would be "they charged you with THAT??".

Trouble is, you weren't there, so you don't know what actually happened. You only get the (sometimes) arbitrary label the law applies.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



As I said, I accept Gute's explanation for why he feels Wyatt is a high character individual, even with having a few incidents involving DV. I do believe Gute when he said he didn't take the charges lightly and fully looked into the full character of the individual.

The multiple charges and 3 different incidents is what is concerning. I do hope he is on a good path now. Gute says he is. Good enough for me.

If you personally got charged with some BS once, I also understand that as well. Just in my interaction with you here I would vouch for you as a good person. Maybe a little bat sht crazy, but I am as well.🍻

Not judging anyone here, just want to make sure if this pops up again while he is a Packer, people are not like "well what did you expect?" He had multiple DV charges when you drafted him.
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2 years ago



If you personally got charged with some BS once, I also understand that as well. Just in my interaction with you here I would vouch for you as a good person. Maybe a little bat sht crazy, but I am as well.🍻

Originally Posted by: PackerNation 



Don't let Zero fool you. He panders for attention and is a real jerk most of the time. It's amazing any of us hang out with him. 🤪

He's like the little brother I never wanted.
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