Zero2Cool
3 years ago
T̶h̶r̶e̶e̶ Four full NFL seasons later, what do you grade these picks, or the entire class?

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3 years ago

Three full NFL seasons later, what do you grade these picks, or the entire class?

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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I believe it's four seasons.

Alexander can be elite, though I don't think he's done it often enough to call him elite yet. Though if you count the trade down and then trade up to basically turn a 3rd into a 1st and still get Alexander, then A+

Jackson a bust, though he seemed to do well when the ball was in front of him, so I wonder if he could transition to Safety still. But many fans/mocks thought he'd be a 1st round guy.

Burks, I had him basically off my board pre-draft, as there were Safeties that seemed more physical and athletic than him. And turns out he didn't have instinct for the NFL level. Horrible selection by Gute IMO.

Moore, honestly the kid moved just like Adams with amazing short area burst but couldn't seem to catch anything for some reason. And his rookie offseason he released video of him working on his quickness and I sorta gave up on him then, like stop working on your strengths, work on your weaknesses! And he never seemed to grow with was disappointing.

Madison, I'll assume the team couldn't tell the mental stuff, but I still dislike the pick because OL in the Air Raid system aren't taught proper OL techniques, and I would prefer to avoid them as they have an even larger adjustments to the NFL system and styles.

JK Scott was supposed to be one of the two stud punters in the draft, Seahawks got the first one, and Scott had great potential, so I think taking the chance was a good risk even if it didn't work out like they hoped.

MVS was a GREAT 5th round selection.

St. Brown, I think it might of been a good swing by Gute, as St. Brown showed flashes of potential, but he never consistently showed up for whatever reason.


Looney was very athletic for his size, and it's a 7th rounder, don't might that chance.

LS Bradley... I understand the reasoning behind the pick, but the first rule of taking a pick that you only have one on your team, is make sure he's better than what you already got. The Packers already had LS Zach Triner and rumors suggest (and public comments sorta seem to confirm) the ST coach liked Triner more than Bradley but the final decision was Gute and he selected his draft pick. Trainer has been the starting LS for the Buccaneers since.

Donnerson linemen technique was basically nonexistent, but he was an absolute athletic freak, but I honestly thought he was going to be a ST coverage stud as speed and hitting were his strengths. He's still sticking around on teams PS.



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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

I believe it's four seasons.

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Appears math is also not my strong suit. 🤷‍♂️
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Pugger
3 years ago

I believe it's four seasons.

Alexander can be elite, though I don't think he's done it often enough to call him elite yet. Though if you count the trade down and then trade up to basically turn a 3rd into a 1st and still get Alexander, then A+

Jackson a bust, though he seemed to do well when the ball was in front of him, so I wonder if he could transition to Safety still. But many fans/mocks thought he'd be a 1st round guy.

Burks, I had him basically off my board pre-draft, as there were Safeties that seemed more physical and athletic than him. And turns out he didn't have instinct for the NFL level. Horrible selection by Gute IMO.

Moore, honestly the kid moved just like Adams with amazing short area burst but couldn't seem to catch anything for some reason. And his rookie offseason he released video of him working on his quickness and I sorta gave up on him then, like stop working on your strengths, work on your weaknesses! And he never seemed to grow with was disappointing.

Madison, I'll assume the team couldn't tell the mental stuff, but I still dislike the pick because OL in the Air Raid system aren't taught proper OL techniques, and I would prefer to avoid them as they have an even larger adjustments to the NFL system and styles.

JK Scott was supposed to be one of the two stud punters in the draft, Seahawks got the first one, and Scott had great potential, so I think taking the chance was a good risk even if it didn't work out like they hoped.

MVS was a GREAT 5th round selection.

St. Brown, I think it might of been a good swing by Gute, as St. Brown showed flashes of potential, but he never consistently showed up for whatever reason.


Looney was very athletic for his size, and it's a 7th rounder, don't might that chance.

LS Bradley... I understand the reasoning behind the pick, but the first rule of taking a pick that you only have one on your team, is make sure he's better than what you already got. The Packers already had LS Zach Triner and rumors suggest (and public comments sorta seem to confirm) the ST coach liked Triner more than Bradley but the final decision was Gute and he selected his draft pick. Trainer has been the starting LS for the Buccaneers since.

Donnerson linemen technique was basically nonexistent, but he was an absolute athletic freak, but I honestly thought he was going to be a ST coverage stud as speed and hitting were his strengths. He's still sticking around on teams PS.


Originally Posted by: beast 



Gute took the wrong St. Brown. 😉
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