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Zero2Cool
2 years ago
Packers move to cut salary cap space: They are releasing OT Billy Turner, according to a source.
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nerdmann
2 years ago
Interesting move. Thought they liked him. Stenavich made him more than just a journeyman. Started him at LT in the playoffs, over Nijman.
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beast
2 years ago
Very surprising move, especially with Jenkins injured, fans questions about Bakhtiari knee and Kelly/Patrick being a FAs, and Myers injuries the last two years and Newman's inconsistency.

The two certain things they had on the OL were Turner and Runyan and now they're just at Runyan.

The other surprising part is that this doesn't seem to be a large cap savings.

I'm thinking this is less about cap space and more about Gute belief in giving guys holes to step up into and Nijman showed well enough that Gute believes he can be the long term starting RT going forward, that or they can resign Kelly and Patrick for the same price as Turner.
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Pugger
2 years ago

Interesting move. Thought they liked him. Stenavich made him more than just a journeyman. Started him at LT in the playoffs, over Nijman.

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And IMO that was a mistake. 🙁 Billy was a fine RT tho.
2 years ago

And IMO that was a mistake. 🙁 Billy was a fine RT tho.

I would be curious to know what others think…”fine”might be aggressive. I would say ‘decent’, and I am not sure they want to pay that much money for decent.
The question is, who do they have penciled in at RT? Nijman? Jenkins? Or do they think they can bring him back at a lower number.
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2 years ago

I would be curious to know what others think…”fine”might be aggressive. I would say ‘decent’, and I am not sure they want to pay that much money for decent.
The question is, who do they have penciled in at RT? Nijman? Jenkins? Or do they think they can bring him back at a lower number.

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



I think they are done with Billy at any price. The backups are younger and their Vet min is lower than Turners would be. It seems like he's an old man but I just looked it up and he's 30. A lot of linemen have done well in their 30s. Then again most of them are worn out and broken by then.
Unless injuries bite them I see L-R Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman and Jenkins. The biggest issue is Newman but rookies almost always are terrible. McCarthy would talk about wanting to see players take a big step in year 2. I think there is a lot of truth to that.
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beast
2 years ago

I think they are done with Billy at any price. The backups are younger and their Vet min is lower than Turners would be. It seems like he's an old man but I just looked it up and he's 30. A lot of linemen have done well in their 30s. Then again most of them are worn out and broken by then.
Unless injuries bite them I see L-R Bak, JRJ, Myers, Newman and Jenkins. The biggest issue is Newman but rookies almost always are terrible. McCarthy would talk about wanting to see players take a big step in year 2. I think there is a lot of truth to that.

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Another issue is Jenkins could be missing six to 17 games next season... so I'm thinking it's Nijman and maybe a resigned Kelly to RT.

With Jenkins at OG still, as pretty much all the teams that have run this wide zone have a LG that was drafted in the top 2 rounds, LG seems to be very valuable in this system.

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Pugger
2 years ago
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