Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Either way, as Vincent Kennedy McMahon would say the Packers need to do what's best for business and what's best for the Packers is trading Rodgers and Adams for a bunch of picks and move on. I mean if we can get 3 1sts and a few 2nds along with a player that is better for the team then signing both of them to big contracts and killing us for the future. I mean after all, we play in the NFC Norris division where the Vikes and Bears each have new coaches and the Lions well are the Lions. We strengthen our defense run the game plan of running the ball and go from there and I believe we still get into the playoffs next year just like this year but be a lot better set for the future.

As far as Rodgers and his worrying about INTs I think is a fair statement. Remember when Favre was known for the most exciting qb in the final two minutes of a game, and why was that? Because he either made throws you were amazed at or he made throws and you said why did he throw that and it all depends on the outcome. If his receivers weren't open he would throw them open and Rodgers does not do that.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Absolutely totally agree they have to do what is best for the team. Short term. Long term. If you read the thread about can Aaron be the reason they win a Super Bowl, you'll find more supporting discussions on that aspect.
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nerdmann
2 years ago
So word is, Aaron will reveal his decision on Pat McAfee's show. The day after that, Gutekunst will reveal HIS decision.

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beast
2 years ago

What do you think about this?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


I think it's damned if you do, damned if you don't... I mean we (the fans) bitch if a QB is forcing the ball, and now we (the fans) are bitching that he doesn't force the ball...

The only thing this proves is that we (the fans) are bitches and will whine and cry about any of damned thing.

Rodgers ain't perfect, but he was closest to perfect than any other QB in the NFL for 2021 and has the trophy to prove it. 🏆

The fact that the QB passer rating is even brought up, suggest that

1) Rodgers cares more about that stat that other things such as winning

2) That the writing is clearly biased... because it's a much easier connection to say Rodgers doesn't like interceptions due more turnovers normally means higher percentage of losing the game. The fact they broke up the passer rating formula, suggest the writer is trying to make Rodgers sound like it's all about him, and not the team.

I think Aaron does coke

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Honestly, I think you have seriously issues...


I also believe Rodgers tends to get tunnel vision towards his favorite target in crunch time. rather than trust the offense and the other guys on the field. This could be characterized as being too safe, but who knows? Maybe in his eyes he feels even if 17 is doubled or tripled that's safer than throwing to an open 13? Why? Because who is going to blast him for throwing it to 17? No, I'm not saying he's worried about public opinion while playing the game, lol. Just throwing some thoughts out there.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Absolutely 100%... in crunch time, when Rodgers is feeling the pressure, he reverts back to a different style of play, a style of play which the biggest playmakers get the ball, and he's the biggest play maker, which is why he used to put pressure on himself to extend the play and make something happen... and still over looks for certain guys... which showed up when he went for Adams three straight times against the Buccaneers in the red zone... when the Buccaneers we're biting hard on Adams and he would have been the perfect decoy.

Rodgers can fall apart when he puts too much pressure on himself to make something happen... but he does it so well most of the time.

Either way, as Vincent Kennedy McMahon would say

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


It doesn't matter what that jabroni would say...

Either way, as Vincent Kennedy McMahon would say the Packers need to do what's best for business

Originally Posted by: dhazer 


Well, maybe I'd start listening to the guy, once he successfully starts following his own advice... as he clearly does what he wants, and doesn't do what is best for business.

Otherwise he'd actually be listening to fan complaints that his product is stale and the opposite of what fans want...

Fans want a wrestling show with deep story telling... Vince is giving fans a very shallow story, with some wrestling... but a lot of basic talking, which doesn't connect with each other, and doesn't combine to tell a story.

Other than the few top people, everyone else is basically a nothing burger to Vince...

Yes he's a millionaire, but as CM Punk said, he should of been a billionaire.

Problem is he couldn't take his head out of his own ass and actually listen to others...

Also, it took him until March 1, 2021 to have a non-Samoan African American with the top belt on Monday Night RAW (the flag ship show). I just couldn't believe it took that freaking long... which especially wasn't doing best for business as clearly some African American wrestler's deserved the top belt too, well before 2021.

Sorry, but Vince is holding the on air product back more than helping... based on all the news that leaks out of there, and don't dare sneeze when he can hear it, as he sees sneezing as a major sign of weakness, that you can't control yourself. He's cra cra....
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Pugger
2 years ago

This is blatantly unfair. To accuse without evidence is character assassination. What if I said that you seem to post in spurts, which would indicate you use cocaine, are obsessive compulsive and watch old episodes of Mr. Ed.? I have absolutely no basis for saying any of that, and neither do you..... so put a sock in it.

I respect McGinn as a writer. He was the first to rightly criticize Favre. However, I disagree with his assessment. He may have been 'hesitant' in some of the playoff games but in the last couple of years, but not so, IMO. He threw a couple balls up for grabs when behind against Tampa last year in the playoffs, and this year, the throw that everyone is critical of him (the one to Adams at the end) he was throwing into double coverage. You can't have it both ways, either he was taking a chance or not.

Hindsight is always 20/20.

Could he have played better....sure, and he should have. But the offensive line could have been significantly better, the special team just sucked, Lewis fumbled., and the coaches choked IMO

Originally Posted by: Martha Careful 



The QB gets too much credit when a team wins and too much blame when they don't. IMO blame for that divisional playoff loss to SF can be targeted in several directions. The D was the lone unit that played well that day. The O was not up to par and the ST was dreadful.
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

So word is, Aaron will reveal his decision on Pat McAfee's show. The day after that, Gutekunst will reveal HIS decision.

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Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The conference Wednesday is one that is held annually prior to the NFL combine. It has nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers.
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beast
2 years ago

The conference Wednesday is one that is held annually prior to the NFL combine. It has nothing to do with Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Based on some previous comments, I've thought Rodgers would want to make a decision known to the Packers and Adams before the Franchise tag would be applied to Adams. Though I didn't know if that's when the franchise tag applying starts, or when it finishes.

Interesting enough, according to PFT it opens today, and Pat McAfee is hyping a "big" guess for today. And Rodgers said he'd announce it on Pat's Show.


So it's certainly lining up as a possibility to be today... and the closing date for the franchise tag is March 8, and Rodgers has made a comment he'd think he'd known by mid March.
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Zero2Cool
2 years ago

Based on some previous comments, I've thought Rodgers would want to make a decision known to the Packers and Adams before the Franchise tag would be applied to Adams. Though I didn't know if that's when the franchise tag applying starts, or when it finishes.

Interesting enough, according to PFT it opens today, and Pat McAfee is hyping a "big" guess for today. And Rodgers said he'd announce it on Pat's Show.


So it's certainly lining up as a possibility to be today... and the closing date for the franchise tag is March 8, and Rodgers has made a comment he'd think he'd known by mid March.

Originally Posted by: beast 


When Aaron Rodgers said "yeah, yeah I'll come in studio and yeah I'll announce it then, that is what I should do" or something to that affect, it came off like he was being facetious and just hyping things for the sake of hyping things. Now that isn't saying he won't, but by his tone I just didn't really buy into him truly thinking that's how he will make it known he's continuing to play.

That said, I wouldn't at all be surprised if Rodgers does McAfee a solid by going on his show with some announcement.

And Rodgers said he wants to make his decision known to the Packers before a franchise tag has to be applied (March 8th, 2022). Rodgers said he doesn't want to put the team in a bad position regardless of him staying or leaving.
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Pugger
2 years ago

Based on some previous comments, I've thought Rodgers would want to make a decision known to the Packers and Adams before the Franchise tag would be applied to Adams. Though I didn't know if that's when the franchise tag applying starts, or when it finishes.

Interesting enough, according to PFT it opens today, and Pat McAfee is hyping a "big" guess for today. And Rodgers said he'd announce it on Pat's Show.


So it's certainly lining up as a possibility to be today... and the closing date for the franchise tag is March 8, and Rodgers has made a comment he'd think he'd known by mid March.

Originally Posted by: beast 



What time is McAfee's show?
Zero2Cool
2 years ago

What time is McAfee's show?

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



It starts in 20 minutes.

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beast
2 years ago

What time is McAfee's show?

Originally Posted by: Pugger 



Looks like even non-Packers sites are speculating it's Rodgers, partly because he just did that socal media item, which might of been to get people talking.

McAfee's show runs live from 12-3 p.m. EST Monday through Friday.

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