Zero2Cool
3 years ago
Packers place Allen Lazard on COVID-19/Reserve list.


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yooperfan
3 years ago
Oh no, this ain't good!
Who'll be the next in line to give us heartburn?
nerdmann
3 years ago
I can prove these tezts are unscientific nonsense, albeit widely used. If I have time I'll drop an explanation in the back alley.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
KRK
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3 years ago
I am available and can get to Arizona by Thursday

I run a 6.82 40 and have marginal hands, although I set a hell of pick on rub routes.

someone please tell MLF
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nerdmann
3 years ago

I am available and can get to Arizona by Thursday

I run a 6.82 40 and have marginal hands, although I set a hell of pick on rub routes.

someone please tell MLF

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Word is, we're gonna get to see Juann Winfree. 🏈
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
3 years ago

I can prove these tezts are unscientific nonsense, albeit widely used. If I have time I'll drop an explanation in the back alley.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I bet you can prove Nebraska has ocean front property... which you're willing to sell us too.
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nerdmann
3 years ago

I bet you can prove Nebraska has ocean front property... which you're willing to sell us too.

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It's not hard.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
3 years ago
I just heard Ian Rapoport said Allen Lazard is a close contact and that is why he's out for the game due to not being vaccinated and a high-risk close contact.

I thought he tested positive AND because he's not vaccinated he was ruled out. These rules are confusing my two brain cells.
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yooperfan
3 years ago

I can prove these tezts are unscientific nonsense, albeit widely used. If I have time I'll drop an explanation in the back alley.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


That's just plain nuts!!!!

KRK
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3 years ago
perhaps of interest....Medpage today wrote:

What's Driving the COVID Rapid Test Shortage?

— Demand from employers is surging, and so are prices

by Kristina Fiore, Director of Enterprise & Investigative Reporting, MedPage Today October 26, 2021

When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, Leo Friedman pivoted his corporate gifting company, iPromo, to help provide his clients with needed products like masks and gloves.

Now that many of those clients have their employees returning to offices, companies want to provide them with rapid tests to protect against in-office transmission.

Friedman has been trying to fill those rapid test orders, but he can't meet demand. When he does find a new batch of product, prices are inflated because they're being resold.

"Most of the time, you go on Amazon and search BinaxNOW, and there's nothing there," Friedman told MedPage Today. "When there is supply, they get bought up by bots, and end up being resold."

For several weeks now, rapid tests have been in short supply, for several reasons. There's new demand from employers returning to in-office work. At the same time, manufacturers bet against the need for testing as cases took a nosedive last spring (Abbott notably destroyed several batches of its rapid tests over the summer). Then, there are concerns about the FDA authorization process being too strict, asking manufacturers to meet what some consider an unnecessarily high bar before being allowed on the market.

Experts are saying that the tests can provide a helpful means of controlling spread, especially in offices, schools, long-term care facilities, prisons, and other crowded settings. The White House seems to recognize that value, as it has recently pumped billions into several initiatives aimed at bolstering rapid testing.

Market analysts have said it will likely be weeks to months before supply can finally catch up with demand -- and that's worrisome as the cooler weather is already bringing more people indoors.

The Marketplace
Currently, FDA has authorized eight over-the-counter rapid antigen at-home tests:
• Abbott BinaxNOW
• Access Bio CareStart
• ACON Flowflex
• BD Veritor
• Celltrion DiaTrust
• Ellume Home Test
• OraSure InteliSwab
• Quidel QuickVue

All are at various stages and levels of production and distribution.

BinaxNOW is the market leader, with 75% of the market share, Abbott CEO Robert Ford said during the company's latest earnings report call. Ford noted that the company had 90% of market share before dropping to 60% in September, which fell "just because of supply," apparently acknowledging the summer purge.

Abbott recently re-opened an Illinois manufacturing plant it had shuttered when it bet that demand for rapid testing would fall, according to Reuters. Ford said during the earnings call that the company can now make more than 100 million tests per month -- but still a far cry from what a nation of 330 million people could use.

While initially governments were its best clients for rapid tests, Ford pointed out that Abbott has now seen a rush of requests from companies and employers.

"In the beginning of the pandemic, most of our sales were focused to governments, whether international governments, federal government here in the U.S., state governments also. And that continues to be pretty strong," he said. "But what we've seen now grow pretty significantly, and I think it's aligned to the screening pieces, the private side of the market, whether it's OTC, cash pay, whether it's a lot of companies. We've seen a lot of companies, in the last couple of months here, signed contracts with us to ensure that they've got rapid testing to be able to give to their employees."

Similarly, Quidel CEO Doug Bryant told Reuters, "Employer demand has gone crazy. We won't be able to meet all the requests that we're having."

While the supply side struggles to catch up with demand, some experts have also raised concerns that FDA's regulation of rapid tests may be too stringent.

In an op-ed for STAT, Daniel Oran, MA, of the digital medicine group at Scripps Research Translational Institute in La Jolla, California, argued that FDA shouldn't classify rapid tests as medical devices. Instead, they should be considered public health screening tools and evaluated on their ability "to identify and isolate infectious individuals on a timely basis."

Tinglong Dai, PhD, of Johns Hopkins Carey Business School in Baltimore, agreed that "FDA has been conservative and slow-moving in terms of approving rapid tests."

Generally, he said, rapid tests have to prove their accuracy by being tested against gold-standard PCR testing -- but that's not necessarily the right comparison for tests that aim to pick up the most infectious cases that are most likely to spread. PCR, on the other hand, may turn up positive even when an individual is no longer infectious.

Dai noted that the European Union has authorized more than 100 different rapid tests, which has helped make them nearly ubiquitous there and allowed them to play a key role in helping to stop the spread of the virus.

What Happened to $5 Tests?
Several times in the last week, this reporter tried to purchase an Abbott BinaxNOW on Amazon. In most instances, there were none available.

Finally, on Tuesday morning, a positive result: a BinaxNOW was available for $14. The kit, which includes two tests, was placed into the virtual cart, ordered, and is supposed to be delivered between October 28 and November 4.
A few hours later, however, no more of the Abbott tests were available on Amazon.

In its place, a rapid antigen test called On/Go, made by Intrivo Diagnostics, was served up for $34.99.
That pricing is more in line with iPromo's pricing, which ranges from $26 to $35 for a single box with two tests, the result of having to buy from middle-men, Friedman said.

The tests are supposed to be available at large retailers like CVS and Walgreens, but they have also been reported to be in short supply in these locations.

While the BinaxNOW was on sale at Walmart.com for $14, it was out of stock. It was, however, available online at both CVS and Walgreens, but for $23.99.

Dai noted that these prices are so much higher than what public health experts had initially hoped for.

"Originally we thought these tests could cost $5 each, we had a lot of hope for that," Dai told MedPage Today. "At CVS and Walgreens they cost more than $20 apiece. That's crazy."

Dai, who reviewed the Abbott earnings call, lamented its focus on revenue and profit around testing: "I find it bizarre that there's very little concern for public health."


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Martha Careful (18h) : I think MLF want Love to look past the end half issues, and feel good about his play. Our coaches generally keep a very positive tone.
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Zero2Cool (20-Dec) : There is a rule that if your name starts with 'b' you lose 15 points. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just enforce them!
wpr (20-Dec) : and then there is Beast. Running away with it all.
beast (20-Dec) : As of tonight, 3 way tie for 2nd in Pick'em, that battle is interesting!
beast (20-Dec) : Lions vs Vikings could be the main last game as it could determine division winners or #1 vs #2 seed
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Mucky Tundra (20-Dec) : The entirety of week 18 being listed as flex is weird
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Matt LaFleur today says unequivocally "Ted Thompson had nothing to do with the drafting of Jordan Love."
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Apparently, the editing is what pieces comments together. That Ted thing ... fake news.
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : LaFleur "opportunity that Ted Thompson thought was too good to pass up"
Zero2Cool (19-Dec) : Jordan Love pick was Ted Thompson's idea.
Mucky Tundra (19-Dec) : Kyle Shanahan on signing De'Vondre Campbell as a FA last offseason: “We obviously made a mistake.”
packerfanoutwest (19-Dec) : Alexander’s last season with GB
Martha Careful (18-Dec) : if I were a professional athlete, I would probably look to see who the agent is for Kirk Cousins and then use him
beast (18-Dec) : $100 million fully guaranteed Kirk Cousins gets benched for rookie
Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : a lower case b
Mucky Tundra (18-Dec) : The real lie is how beast capitalized his name in his message while it's normally spelled with
packerfanoutwest (18-Dec) : haha that's a lie
beast (17-Dec) : Despite what lies other might tell, Beast didn't hate the Winter Warnings, it felt refreshing to Beast for some reason.
Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : whiteout uniforms in general are pretty lame and weak. NFL greed at it's worst
Martha Careful (17-Dec) : The Viking uniforms, the whiteout uniforms specifically absolutely suck
beast (17-Dec) : Thanks Zero2Cool, looks a lot better now
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Zero2Cool (17-Dec) : Should be gooder now. The forum default theme went to goofy land.
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Mucky Tundra (16-Dec) : Zero, did you copy the Packers uniforms from last night and white out the board?
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Zero2Cool (16-Dec) : WR Odell Beckham Jr is officially a free agent after clearing waivers.
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