Stevetarded
16 years ago

Rodgers gets us into game winning FG position, and it's blocked.
Will people blame this one on him too???
He did his job.

"dhazer" wrote:



Just out of curiosity how did Rodgers get us in winning FG position? If i was watching the same game we were in FG position after the kick return and the horse collar? I said that in chat last night in chat. I could be wrong i might have been watching a different game maybe lol.



I want to throw in here that i am not hating o Rodgers i clearly put this on Mike McCarthy totally. You watch the Giants game sunday night, the steelers game the week before, they don't settle for the fg they keep driving the ball down the field until they score a td or have to kick a very short fg.

"Cheesey" wrote:



After the return it would have been a 52 yard FG.
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Stevetarded
16 years ago

I hate to say it, but Brett Favre gave you those intangibles that helped you win games.

"Fred" wrote:



Then why do you keep saying it?

And where are those "intangibles" this year?

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Because it's the truth.

The intangibles this year were the games you saw against Tennesse and New England.

As Carl Banks said, "Sometimes you have coaches that are trying to run a system that doesn't fit a particular players skill set". "Sometimes, when you have a guy like Brett Favre you have to let him control the game the way he sees fit and not try to put a square peg into a round hole like Eric Mangin is..you have to let a player and an offense get into its flow (or rhythm)".

"Fred" wrote:



Chucking a bomb on 4th and 2 sounds more to me like a Favre style play than Mangini
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Fred
16 years ago
That's not true at all.

He threw picks when he was trying to lead his team back from a deficit. They weren't hail mary passes at all. Why make stuff up?

It happens to the best of them. But there's no need to lie.
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Fred
16 years ago

I hate to say it, but Brett Favre gave you those intangibles that helped you win games.

"Stevetarded" wrote:



Then why do you keep saying it?

And where are those "intangibles" this year?

"Fred" wrote:



Because it's the truth.

The intangibles this year were the games you saw against Tennesse and New England.

As Carl Banks said, "Sometimes you have coaches that are trying to run a system that doesn't fit a particular players skill set". "Sometimes, when you have a guy like Brett Favre you have to let him control the game the way he sees fit and not try to put a square peg into a round hole like Eric Mangin is..you have to let a player and an offense get into its flow (or rhythm)".

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Chucking a bomb on 4th and 2 sounds more to me like a Favre style play than Mangini

"Fred" wrote:



Yeah right, 'tarded'

Favre called off the punt and decided to go for it on 4th down.
He also decided to knock the ball out of Coles' arms after he threw it because that's the way he rolls....

:roll:
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warhawk
16 years ago

Rodgers gets us into game winning FG position, and it's blocked.
Will people blame this one on him too???
He did his job.

"dhazer" wrote:



Just out of curiosity how did Rodgers get us in winning FG position? If i was watching the same game we were in FG position after the kick return and the horse collar? I said that in chat last night in chat. I could be wrong i might have been watching a different game maybe lol.



I want to throw in here that i am not hating o Rodgers i clearly put this on Mike McCarthy totally. You watch the Giants game sunday night, the steelers game the week before, they don't settle for the fg they keep driving the ball down the field until they score a td or have to kick a very short fg.

"Cheesey" wrote:



Well I don't know what game you were watching but we were NOT in field goal range after the punt on a field like that and Rodgers made a big-time third down throw and Jones made a big time catch for a first down that DID get us in FG range. If Rodgers doesn't make that throw to get us in range I just wonder who would have been first on this board to note how he couldn't even move us 10/15 yards to get us in position to win the game?

As far as McCarthy is concerned on the playcalling this was textbook. Ball on the twenty, run the other team out of time outs, bring the clock down, kick the ball, go home.

On a frozen field like that what McCarthy did with a kicker like Crosby standing over there you don't risk losing the ball. I can just imagine IF he DID try to keep moving the ball and there's a turnover YOU and a bunch of people here would be screaming bloody murder.

You try to point out what a couple of teams did in isolated situations and you know damn well that any coach in the same situation would do just what he did 8 out of 10 times. How many times do you have to see teams get to the 20 late or in overtime and hunker down and then kick it with no time left to believe that's how it's done way more often than not?
"The train is leaving the station."
Pack93z
16 years ago

Rodgers gets us into game winning FG position, and it's blocked.
Will people blame this one on him too???
He did his job.

"warhawk" wrote:



Just out of curiosity how did Rodgers get us in winning FG position? If i was watching the same game we were in FG position after the kick return and the horse collar? I said that in chat last night in chat. I could be wrong i might have been watching a different game maybe lol.



I want to throw in here that i am not hating o Rodgers i clearly put this on Mike McCarthy totally. You watch the Giants game sunday night, the steelers game the week before, they don't settle for the fg they keep driving the ball down the field until they score a td or have to kick a very short fg.

"dhazer" wrote:



Well I don't know what game you were watching but we were NOT in field goal range after the punt on a field like that and Rodgers made a big-time third down throw and Jones made a big time catch for a first down that DID get us in FG range. If Rodgers doesn't make that throw to get us in range I just wonder who would have been first on this board to note how he couldn't even move us 10/15 yards to get us in position to win the game?

As far as McCarthy is concerned on the playcalling this was textbook. Ball on the twenty, run the other team out of time outs, bring the clock down, kick the ball, go home.

On a frozen field like that what McCarthy did with a kicker like Crosby standing over there you don't risk losing the ball. I can just imagine IF he DID try to keep moving the ball and there's a turnover YOU and a bunch of people here would be screaming bloody murder.

You try to point out what a couple of teams did in isolated situations and you know damn well that any coach in the same situation would do just what he did 8 out of 10 times. How many times do you have to see teams get to the 20 late or in overtime and hunker down and then kick it with no time left to believe that's how it's done way more often than not?

"Cheesey" wrote:



100% agreed.. Rodgers stick to Jones was huge..

MM played the cards to the letter in how you should drain a team of the TO's and center the ball up for the game winner.. we got our asses handed to us on special teams again tonight.. that interior line on that attempt got drilled off the LOS.. Mason slipped a bit and kicked it a bit low.. the combination of those two killed that play. Period.

For the first time this season, with the marbles on the line late, Rodgers delivered when he had no choice but to deliver to Jones. MM called it out per the book.. granted we should be able to run more effect, but that is not our MO this season..

Rodgers sold me last night.. I have no more questions about the kid.. he delivered in the clutch.. other parts of the team not so much.. but that was a big time throw from Rodgers and concentration from Jones even though he got hurt again.

That was a winning play and milked another 1:30 off the clock.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago

I have said it many times, and just get branded "a hater", Aaron Rodgers will never become The QB everyone wants him to be untill coaching changes are made.

Mike McCarthy has proven several times this year that he will not let Aaron Rodgers and the offense to finish a game. Always going the "safe route", settling for fg attempts, instead of trying to put the ball in the endzone.

Last night was just another case of the same ole, same ole.

The Packers dominated the game from the start. Put the ball in the end zone twice.
2nd half Packers scored what a total of 3 points!!!!

It's getting real old, real fast, same posts every week, Aaron Rodgers played a great game, but we still lost, it's not his fault, well last night it wasn't the defenses fault, Bears offense less than 300 total yds., turnovers were 2-2, special teams gave up a play, but made a few good plays also.

Everyone seems to want to do a "knee jerk reaction" and place the blame on someone, well take a long look at the whole season, if you want to put the blame on anyone, it's not the players.

Right now Aaron Rodgers is the qb of a 5-10 team, I don't care how good his stats are, he will never become known as a solid NFL QB until the wins start coming, that is not going to happen by "playing it safe" all the time.

"Fred" wrote:



See what happens when you play "within the system"

I hate to say it, but Brett Favre gave you those intangibles that helped you win games.

It's time for some people to give credit to Brett Favre around here for last year's amazing season. Many here still think it was solely because of Ted Thompson or Mike McCarthy.

Not saying that AROD won't develop into a good QB, but to say that he's better than Brett Favre, or was the better option is simply untrue.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:




I've never seen a more myopic person. Ever. If I ever gave your words an ounce of credence, it was a mistake. You're just astoundingly wrong, all the time.
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Since69
16 years ago

That's not true at all.

He threw picks when he was trying to lead his team back from a deficit. They weren't hail mary passes at all. Why make stuff up?

It happens to the best of them. But there's no need to lie.

"Fred" wrote:



A rare, but appropriate +1 for Fred...
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Fred tossed out what's called a "straw man," since no where did I ever say that Rodgers was throwing Hail Marys. But whatever.
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dhazer
16 years ago

Rodgers gets us into game winning FG position, and it's blocked.
Will people blame this one on him too???
He did his job.

"pack93z" wrote:



Just out of curiosity how did Rodgers get us in winning FG position? If i was watching the same game we were in FG position after the kick return and the horse collar? I said that in chat last night in chat. I could be wrong i might have been watching a different game maybe lol.



I want to throw in here that i am not hating o Rodgers i clearly put this on Mike McCarthy totally. You watch the Giants game sunday night, the steelers game the week before, they don't settle for the fg they keep driving the ball down the field until they score a td or have to kick a very short fg.

"warhawk" wrote:



Well I don't know what game you were watching but we were NOT in field goal range after the punt on a field like that and Rodgers made a big-time third down throw and Jones made a big time catch for a first down that DID get us in FG range. If Rodgers doesn't make that throw to get us in range I just wonder who would have been first on this board to note how he couldn't even move us 10/15 yards to get us in position to win the game?

As far as McCarthy is concerned on the playcalling this was textbook. Ball on the twenty, run the other team out of time outs, bring the clock down, kick the ball, go home.

On a frozen field like that what McCarthy did with a kicker like Crosby standing over there you don't risk losing the ball. I can just imagine IF he DID try to keep moving the ball and there's a turnover YOU and a bunch of people here would be screaming bloody murder.

You try to point out what a couple of teams did in isolated situations and you know damn well that any coach in the same situation would do just what he did 8 out of 10 times. How many times do you have to see teams get to the 20 late or in overtime and hunker down and then kick it with no time left to believe that's how it's done way more often than not?

"dhazer" wrote:



100% agreed.. Rodgers stick to Jones was huge..

Mike McCarthy played the cards to the letter in how you should drain a team of the TO's and center the ball up for the game winner.. we got our asses handed to us on special teams again tonight.. that interior line on that attempt got drilled off the LOS.. Mason slipped a bit and kicked it a bit low.. the combination of those two killed that play. Period.

For the first time this season, with the marbles on the line late, Rodgers delivered when he had no choice but to deliver to Jones. Mike McCarthy called it out per the book.. granted we should be able to run more effect, but that is not our MO this season..

Rodgers sold me last night.. I have no more questions about the kid.. he delivered in the clutch.. other parts of the team not so much.. but that was a big time throw from Rodgers and concentration from Jones even though he got hurt again.

That was a winning play and milked another 1:30 off the clock.

"Cheesey" wrote:




So what your telling me is completing 2-3 passes for 11 yds with over 2 minutes to go is now classified as a late minute drive? We are stretching for straws here. Yes Steve when we got the ball it would've been a 52 yarder but thats still fg range.


We got the ball with 3:05 left on the Bears 35 yd line and we move the ball for a total of 15 yds. Amazing drive like i said i don't put the blame on Rodgers this is all on MM's head, but there is no way in hell going to say that rodgers drove us into fg range when we started in it.
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