dhazer
16 years ago

People saying we might have been stuck with another qb where the hell was rodgers going his contract was going thru 2009 so please explain to me where the hell was he going to go?

"brnt247" wrote:



David, grow up. The quarterback of whom you are speaking by implication has lost 3 of the past 4 games and tossed 6 INTs against 1 TD. What makes you think he would have given this team a better chance to win than Rodgers? That same quarterback admitted in a presser after the season was over that the Packers might go 13-3 again in 2008 -- or they might just as easily go 3-13. Like all the rest of us, he looked at the schedule for this year and knew it wouldn't be as easy.

I do not believe the Packers would have finished this season with a winning record with him at the helm, and even if they had, I doubt they would have gone to the playoffs. We've had a bad year. It happens to every team. The Packers WILL be better next year. And as disappointing as this season has been, the benefit is that Rodgers has been baptized in fire and will come out of this season tougher and ready to lead this team through adversity. That wouldn't have happened had he been forced to ride the pine for another season.

"dhazer" wrote:




Non all im saying is im so damn tired of hearing we might have lost Rodgers, He was under contract thru 2009 so it wasnt like he was going anywhere thats all i mean about it.

Plus to you people that say i bash this team or whatever i am just being realistic about things, I get bashed because i say we don't have the best 5 wrs in the league, i gave names that show we arent but yet i'm a basher for it. Like i said i'm a die hard Packer fan but i don't run around with blinders on. I try and make a positive post about our defense and i get told im wrong so i guess i will never agree with such shallow minded posters that keep trying to bash me.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Quarterback #1 retires.
Quarterback #2 has been in the league for 3 years which is more than enough time behind a quarterback to learn the league.
You tell Quarterback #2 he's got the job for good, and you tell the media he's got the job for good.
You go into camp with Quarterback #2 ready to start and get in sync with the offense.
Quarterback #1 decides he wants to come back and play again.
Front office tells Quarterback #2 that he won't start anymore because Quarterback #1 decided he has an itch to play again.
Quarterback #2 is left with a bad taste in his mouth and only has one more year left on his contract and will likely use it to showcase his talents to the other 31 teams along with the Packers.

If you don't see how we could have lost Rodgers from this whole ordeal then you're nuts.

"dhazer" wrote:




I give up on this all i said is he wasn't going anywhere, but yet your saying Rodgers don't give 2 shits about the packers because they would have changed their mind for one year, But hey you did make my opinion of him correct he is all about the money thanks :thumbright:

I'm even giving you a +1 for that lol

I give facts and you give opinions unless you know Rodgers personally and he told you he would have left the Packers after his contract was up.
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brnt247
16 years ago

People saying we might have been stuck with another qb where the hell was rodgers going his contract was going thru 2009 so please explain to me where the hell was he going to go?

"dhazer" wrote:



David, grow up. The quarterback of whom you are speaking by implication has lost 3 of the past 4 games and tossed 6 INTs against 1 TD. What makes you think he would have given this team a better chance to win than Rodgers? That same quarterback admitted in a presser after the season was over that the Packers might go 13-3 again in 2008 -- or they might just as easily go 3-13. Like all the rest of us, he looked at the schedule for this year and knew it wouldn't be as easy.

I do not believe the Packers would have finished this season with a winning record with him at the helm, and even if they had, I doubt they would have gone to the playoffs. We've had a bad year. It happens to every team. The Packers WILL be better next year. And as disappointing as this season has been, the benefit is that Rodgers has been baptized in fire and will come out of this season tougher and ready to lead this team through adversity. That wouldn't have happened had he been forced to ride the pine for another season.

"brnt247" wrote:




Non all im saying is im so damn tired of hearing we might have lost Rodgers, He was under contract thru 2009 so it wasnt like he was going anywhere thats all i mean about it.

Plus to you people that say i bash this team or whatever i am just being realistic about things, I get bashed because i say we don't have the best 5 wrs in the league, i gave names that show we arent but yet i'm a basher for it. Like i said i'm a die hard Packer fan but i don't run around with blinders on. I try and make a positive post about our defense and i get told im wrong so i guess i will never agree with such shallow minded posters that keep trying to bash me.

"dhazer" wrote:



Quarterback #1 retires.
Quarterback #2 has been in the league for 3 years which is more than enough time behind a quarterback to learn the league.
You tell Quarterback #2 he's got the job for good, and you tell the media he's got the job for good.
You go into camp with Quarterback #2 ready to start and get in sync with the offense.
Quarterback #1 decides he wants to come back and play again.
Front office tells Quarterback #2 that he won't start anymore because Quarterback #1 decided he has an itch to play again.
Quarterback #2 is left with a bad taste in his mouth and only has one more year left on his contract and will likely use it to showcase his talents to the other 31 teams along with the Packers.

If you don't see how we could have lost Rodgers from this whole ordeal then you're nuts.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:




I give up on this all i said is he wasn't going anywhere, but yet your saying Rodgers don't give 2 shits about the packers because they would have changed their mind for one year, But hey you did make my opinion of him correct he is all about the money thanks :thumbright:

I'm even giving you a +1 for that lol

I give facts and you give opinions unless you know Rodgers personally and he told you he would have left the Packers after his contract was up.

"dhazer" wrote:



How difficult is this to comprehend? Here's another easy example maybe a bit more down to Earth. At your job the man right above you is retiring and your boss says you're going to get promoted. You take the promotion and get ready to deal with the team below you to fully prepare yourself for all the tasks and responsibilities necessary. The man who retired comes back and tells the boss he wants his job back so now you have to go back to doing what you did before which has less responsibility and less money. I for one would be furious with company and probably start looking for a new job, at least one with more integrity and ethics.

You act as if athletes aren't humans and don't care about money. Do you care about money? I sure do.
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zombieslayer
16 years ago

His inability to infuse the defense with enough talent has resulted in a major breakdown this season, and his attempts to improve the offensive line have come up short.



I think our D is fine in the LB, S, and CB positions. It's the DL that's the problem and the DL not doing their job wears down our LBs, making our LBs look worse than they really are. Our LBs really aren't that bad. You just can't expect LBs to take a beating like that and look spectacular for 60 minutes in the NFL.

And our OL is horrible.

However, Thompson has upgraded the receiving corps, turned the secondary from a weakness to strength and put the long-term future of the quarterback position in good hands.



OK. Completely agreed on the WR. I love our WRs. Point 2 - our secondary is a strength. They're getting burned sometimes because they're on the field all day long. If the DL can't generate pressure, a WR will eventually get open. You cannot expect DBs to cover WRs for six seconds all day long.

Point 3 - Kudos for Aaron Rodgers. He's awesome. But Brohm and Flynn? Remains to be seen. They're both huge question marks.

I wouldn't throw Ted Thompson under the bus just yet but if we have one more bad year, he should be on the hot seat. He's done wonders in some areas but stunk up both lines. I loved him last year and loathed him this year. I'm hoping next year, he does something about the lines. If he fails next year...
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

Non all im saying is im so damn tired of hearing we might have lost Rodgers, He was under contract thru 2009 so it wasnt like he was going anywhere thats all i mean about it.

"dhazer" wrote:



You're absolutely right, of course. I think most people assume that Rodgers would have petulantly refused to sign another contract after the 2009 season had he been forced to ride the pine another year. This is, of course, complete speculation -- and quite unfair to Rodgers, in my opinion. He's never expressed the least dissatisfaction with the situation; he has handled everything with the utmost class and grace.

That being said, I'm glad he got to start this year, and I firmly believe he will be the class of the NFC, possibly of the NFL, next year.
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16 years ago
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You all make me smile.

We may have the best "set of 5 wr's" in the game, the problem was they were not all healthy at once most of the year, when they all could get on the field at the same time, they never were!!!!

Whatever happened to THE BIG 5?

Why wasn't it used this year?

Lord knows that the running game has been subpar most of the year.

I hate to go back to 2007, but the run game was non-existant the first 7 weeks of the season, but with THE BIG 5, The Packers went 6-1.

We can have the best set of whatever position, choose one, if the game plan doesn't utilize these players it does no good to have them on the roster.

No punter for 13 weeks, special teams diluted by player selection(where are you Tracy White!!!!).

Poor game planning, poor player preperation, poor coaching.

Fix the upper management problems, the coaching problems, then worry about the guys that actually play the game.
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IronMan
16 years ago



No punter for 13 weeks

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:


That still pisses me off. Absolutely no excuse to have him on the roster for 13 weeks.
Pack93z
16 years ago



Fix the upper management problems, the coaching problems, then worry about the guys that actually play the game.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



I look at the talent on this team and there is no way we should be 5-9 at this point in this season.. debate the reasons why we are not better all you want..

But we have talent, there is no doubt.. maybe question that talent along the Oline.. but this dline was pretty good in 07'...

If you want to grill someone this season.. IMO, look no further that some of the positional coaches and coaching in general.. after three seasons we collectively make far to many silly ass mistakes to win more than we have this season..

Could we use a player or two in free agency to help bolster both lines.. yep, the weakest link in Ted's tenure has been filling the guard spots on offense and this season under valuing depth along the dline.. he is human and has made some mistakes..

This should be an interesting offseason.
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Pack93z
16 years ago



No punter for 13 weeks

"IronMan" wrote:


That still pisses me off. Absolutely no excuse to have him on the roster for 13 weeks.

"buckeyepackfan" wrote:



Agreed.. held a little too tight to the pride on that one.. it was a mistake and that was clear early.
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