TexasPackerFan
16 years ago
Ok everyone please don't hate me but if we split the last two games of the season going 1-1 who would you guys rather beat? Our long time rival and the team we hate the most (on the field) the Bears or the win less (maybe) Lions?

For me personally as much I hate to say I think I would rather beat the Lions seeing as they will probably be 0-15 coming into Green Bay and I wouldn't want the Lions to get potentially their only win of the season against us.

I can handle losing to the Bears but to give the Lions their (again maybe, they could beat the Saints) only win of the season and spoiling their defeated season would be hard to swallow. People won't forget that I think.

Of course I want the Packers to finish the season winning both games so this is a theoretical question/poll.
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vikesrule
16 years ago
Well TPF, for me it is an obvious choice!

Packers beat da Bears (self-serving interest), then lose to the Lions.

That would be ...........sweeeet! :icon_smile:
Greg C.
16 years ago
This is easy, assuming the Lions lose to New Orleans this week. (Which I don't think is a safe assumption, by the way. I'm expecting the Lions to beat them.) A loss to an 0-15 team, at home, after they haven't won a game in your stadium in a decade and a half, would be a humiliating way to end the season. A loss to the Bears, as much as I don't like it, would be pretty much expected, and I'd rather see the Bears than the Vikings win the division.

The auto bailout will bring good karma to the Lions this weekend against the Saints--or what qualifies as good karma in Michigan, anyway.
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RaiderPride
16 years ago
Lose to the Bears beat the winless Lions if I had only one choice.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
kobe16
16 years ago
i would say beat the bears to spoil their playoff hopes
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PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
If nothing changes, I want to beat the Lions over the Bears.

First, Lions game is at home and Bears game on the road. Must win at home.
Second, I predicted GB would split with MN and Chi while sweeping Detroit so at least I would have gotten that part correct.
Third. Detroit hasn't won in Lambeau in what 16 years. Lets keep that streak going.
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dfosterf
16 years ago

This is easy, assuming the Lions lose to New Orleans this week. (Which I don't think is a safe assumption, by the way. I'm expecting the Lions to beat them.) A loss to an 0-15 team, at home, after they haven't won a game in your stadium in a decade and a half, would be a humiliating way to end the season. A loss to the Bears, as much as I don't like it, would be pretty much expected, and I'd rather see the Bears than the Vikings win the division.

The auto bailout will bring good karma to the Lions this weekend against the Saints--or what qualifies as good karma in Michigan, anyway.

"Greg C." wrote:



What an awesomely wicked (in the evil sense :icon_smile: ) question.

What first came to mind was the term, "Hobson's Choice", but it is far more devious than that. This is a truly classic case of "Morton's Fork".

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Morton's Fork 


+1 to TexasPackerFan for the devilish nature of the question. I am stealing part of Greg C.'s answer to this conundrum. I beseech the Gods of good karma to smile upon us and extricate the Pack and Lions from a dual untenable situation. I remind those Gods of Lovie Smith and his narrowly focused hatred and objectives as regards Green Bay, and further remind him/her that the only thing worse than going 0-16 would be to lose to a team on the last day of the season in order to prevent such an occurrence...this requires a Lions win this weekend, along with the Pack. I am actually willing to surrender a loss to the Lions next week as my personal karmic offerring should the forces of righteousness prevail this weekend, thereby keeping the yin and yang forces balanced and in harmony. (Can you tell that I didn't put an answer to your poll? It is a good joss/bad joss thing, which I also happen to be employing in this particular situation :icon_smile: )

This speech keeps making me nervous if it comes down to the last game:

Rod Marinelli to team: 'We're not going 0-16'
Lions coach brings up the possibility for first time
BY NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER December 2, 2008

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When the Lions assembled for a meeting Monday, coach Rod Marinelli put the team picture on the big screen. His message: They do not want that photo on exhibit at the Pro Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio, to represent the NFL's first 0-16 team.


"Nobody wants to be 0-16," running back Aveion Cason said. "Nobody wants to be a part of history, man. You don't want to go to Canton that way."
gbpfan
16 years ago
i chose to beat the lions,it's a home game and last game for us. I don't for see the bears or vikes getting to far into the playoffs :icon_smile:
go.pack.go.
16 years ago
Lions...if we were to lose to the Lions at home after they go 0-15, you have no idea how much crap I would get at school...lol. And plus, I want to see an 0-16 team.
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DGB454
16 years ago
Bears for me. I think it would be fitting to loose to the Lions this year considering the year we have had. Maybe someone will wake up and play better next year if we loose to an 0-15 team. I think the Lions will beat the Saints this week so it won't be that bad if we do loose to them.

I just want to sweep the Bears this season. I want to kill their chances of a playoff.
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