dfosterf
16 years ago
PHP- NFL JOB SEEKERS PLAN?


Hey, man...what else am I gonna do to make you click on this, we're talking asst. equipment manager, but the career path is legitimate...read further:
Bryan Nehring , Assistant Equipment Manager,

is a local boy that done made good. Bryan was a participant in The University of Wisconsin-LaCrosse Athletic Training Education Program. The Green Bay Packers themselves started this program in 1983. If you are looking for an NFL job, this would be a good place to go and the program to do it in. The ATEP supplied more interns throughout the NFL than any other single source from 1998-2005. From the UW-L website:

Since 1983, the UW-L Athletic Training Education Program (ATEP) has had an ongoing student intern
placement relationship with teams in the National Football League (NFL). Due to large roster sizes, NFL
training camps often enlist the additional help of student interns to assist full time staff in providing
services to players attempting to make the seasonal roster.
For nearly 25 years UW-L athletic training students have routinely applied and received summer
internships with NFL teams. The educational value of working with elite sports medicine providers in the
NFL has been an integral part of the overall education experienced by 48 UW-L athletic training
students.
The NFL experience for UW-L athletic training students began in the mid 80s when Dominic Gentile,
Head Athletic Trainer for the Green Bay Packers, convinced the Packers front office that he needed
additional assistance.
Dominic was the only athletic trainer on staff for the Packers at the time and
nearly every other team had at least one assistant. He was granted the ability to hire a student intern
for the full season. The term hire may be a bit of a misrepresentation as the going rate was $85/week
for the 80 hour work week.

In the summer of 1986, the Minnesota Vikings added a summer intern from
the UW-L program. In 1988 the New Orleans Saints began summer training camps in La Crosse, and
hired for the camp one UW-L student. Soon the Saints were able to hire one student from each class.
This provided to the Saints a reliable and trustworthy source for athletic training student interns for the
subsequent 12 years that they held summer training camp in La Crosse.
As openings for full season interns and full time staff became available, summer interns were in a prime
position to secure further opportunities. As a result, 22 of the 48 students interning in a summer training
camp period, were then successful in securing full season internships in the NFL upon graduation. In the
NFL, when full time positions become available a small and readily available pool of applicants often is
developed from previous summer and full season interns. The following six (6) alumni have had full-time
employment by the indicated team of the NFL:

Brian Nehring, full season intern, Assistant Equipment Manager, Green Bay Packers,
1983-current.

Chuck Barta, summer intern/full season intern, Assistant Athletic Trainer, Head Athletic
Trainer, Minnesota Vikings, 1986-2005.

Kurt Fielding, full season intern, Assistant Athletic Trainer, Green Bay Packers, 1988-
current.

Sam Ramsden, full season intern, Assistant Athletic Trainer, Green Bay Packers, 1991-
1999, Head Athletic Trainer, Seattle Seahawks, 1999-current.
Aaron Miller, summer intern/full season intern, Assistant Athletic Trainer, New Orleans
Saints, 1997-2004, and Assistant Athletic Trainer, San Diego Chargers, 2004-2005.

Scott McNeil, summer intern/full season intern, Minnesota Vikings, Assistant Athletic Trainer

From 1998
until 2005,
UW-L had
more
athletic
training
alumni
working in
the NFL
then any
other
college or
university in
the country.

The teams
that have
hired UW-L
Athletic Training students, including training
camp interns, are as follows: Green Bay
Packers, Kansas City Chiefs Minnesota Vikings, New Orleans Saints, New York Jets, San Diego
Chargers, Seattle Seahawks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the Washington Redskins,
Each year NFL teams receive hundreds of applications from athletic training students seeking summer internships"



Bryan seems to be the exception to the rule, as he is an Assistant Equipment Manager, and many of his contemporaries have gone on to become either assistant or Head Athletic Trainers in the NFL

(whew, that's as close as I can get to make an asst. equipment mgr. semi-interesting :icon_smile: )
dfosterf
16 years ago
PHP-THE PACKERS FASHION GURU


Tom Bakken, Assistant Equipment Manager

How not to freeze your butt off
And other tidbits

Tom is the Packers fashion guru... his direct boss is Gordon "Red" Batty, Equipment Manager

Know how to dress for different weather conditions
BY STEPHANIE BRIEN SBRIEN@GREENBAYPRESSGAZETTE.COM JANUARY 3, 2009

From August to December, Green Bay's temperatures can vary from above 100 degrees to below zero. At the same time, attire of fans attending Packers' games ranges from no shirt to five shirts and from orange hunting suits to Santa suits. With such clothing options and temperatures, it's important for fans to check the forecast for the game and dress for the weather.


Preseason heat
Believe it or not, it's not always snow and frigid temperatures in Green Bay. There are times when it can get hot, especially when you're packed in with more than 70,000 of your closest friends.
For August games, forget the winter gloves and scarves and throw on the shades and a hat. The last two years, the Packers have created specialized hats such as the pink hat for breast cancer and red hat for heart disease and will be releasing another hat campaign in mid-July.
As for clothing, Kate Hogan, director of retail operations for the Green Bay Packers, recommends polyester blended materials and performance fabrics, which "wicks the sweat away from your skin." While the new material is growing in popularity, Hogan said the regular cotton T-shirt still has higher sales and more styles and price ranges offered.
Sometimes it rains, too.

When the rain starts pouring down, players and coaches on the sideline are fitted with $300 rain suits -- but there are much cheaper options for the average cheesehead.
Hogan said the best investment for rain games is a good poncho. Depending on advance weather forecasts, Hogan said the Packers Pro Shop can sell anywhere between 1,000 to 10,000 ponchos in one day. Ponchos at the Pro Shop range from $7.95 to $12.95 depending on the material's weight and can be found around the city for varying prices.
At last resort, a black garbage bag can work. Don't even think about bringing an umbrella they are not allowed under the team's carry-in policy.

Frozen tundra
The site of the 1967 Ice Bowl, where an elderly man died due to exposure, and the 1985 Snow Bowl, where about two-thirds of the stadium was empty, Lambeau Field has earned the title the Frozen Tundra.

Packers assistant equipment manager Tom Bakken, who's in charge of making sure coach Mike McCarthy and his staff are dressed properly for games, said it's all about layering for winter games.
Fans would do well to take their keys from how the staff dresses in cold games.

At their base, the coaches wear "technical long johns," a polyester or polypropylene fabric to allow the skin to breath. On top of that they wear a dickey or turtleneck to keep their necks warm and a fleece shirt to keep in the warmth.
Finally, they top it off with a warm jacket and light windbreaker "so you don't blow all the warm air out of there," Bakken said.
While those five layers usually work for the coaches on the sideline, Bakken said fans are not moving around as much as coaches and may have to do more to keep warm.
"The biggest thing for those folks is they got to put something between the bench and their back side so they don't lose all that heat," Bakken said. Stadium seats, with cushioned bottoms and back rests are available at every gate and can be rented for $6 a game.

Conclusion and Analysis:
Tom can stay as long as Red says so, same with Bryan Nehring (PHP NFL job seekers plan)

Next up-- Gordon "Red" Batty, Equipment Manager, and what they do.

P.S. Equipment managers CAN get fired...

Thursday, January 20, 1994 - Page updated at 12:00 AM
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NFL -- Green Bay Packers Fire Equipment Manager, 68
Green Bay Press-Gazette: AP
GREEN BAY, Wis. - The Green Bay Packers fired equipment manager Bob Noel yesterday, who had the longest service of anyone in the organization.
"They said the locker room wasn't clean," said Noel, who had been with the team since 1951. "(General Manager Ron Wolf) didn't like what was going on. "I'm shocked. I've cried more than one time. I put my heart and soul into this thing. I don't know what in the hell I could've done more."
Noel said Wolf told him once before in training camp that the locker rooms were disorderly.
"It's very sad," Noel said. "They're going to pick up my key Friday. I think (Wolf) wants to bring in his own people."
Noel, 68, began as a part-time equipment assistant in 1951.



This stuff WILL get more important and interesting... I semi-promise :pottytrain2:
PackFanWithTwins
16 years ago
PHP- THE CURRENT OFFENSIVE LINE



Chad Clifton 9th year Left Tackle. 6'5" 320 lbs. was a 2nd round selection in 2000 draft from Tennessee.
Cap Implication - 2009 Cap# just over 8 million. If released the team would save about 6.3 million in cap room. Chad is a FA after the 2009 season.

Clifton has been one of the cornerstones of the offensive line since becoming a starter during the 2000 season. Chad has missed little time with the exception of being knocked out by a cheap shot by Warren Sapp. Report from the Packers is that Chad will be undergoing 2 off season surgeries, one for sure is to remove debris from one of his knees, the 2nd procedure also reported as a clean out procedure with the joint being unknown expected to be his other knee. Clifton will more than likely be back for the 2009 training camp. Dependent on whether Chad can stop the fall off in production, free agent signings and drafter players, Chad may be let go due to depth and competition along with salary cap considerations. Clifton was a selection for the 2007 Pro Bowl.

Darren Colledge 3rd year Guard/Tackle. 6'4" 308 lbs. was a 2nd round selection in the 2006 draft from Boise State.
Cap Implication - 2009 Cap# $855 thousand. If released the team would save $530K in cap space. Darren will be a free agent after the 2009 season.

Colledge has primarily played left guard for his 3 years in Green Bay. While also filling in as the backup for the left tackle position, and the final 2008 game as right tackle. Darren's size at 308 lbs places him on the small size for a typical left tackle, his ability to play multiple positions across the offensive line makes him a valuable player for the depth of the entire line.

Scott Wells 5th year Center, 6'2" 303 lbs. Was a 7th round selection of the 2004 draft out of Tennessee.
Cap implication - 2009 Cap# is 1.95 million the team would save approx 1.75 million if Wells was released. Scott is under contract through 2011.

Scott will be having off season shoulder surgery. Current report is Wells and Jason Spitz will be battling for the starting Center position in training camp next year. Wells has been a consistent performer at center for the packers.

Jason Spitz 3rd year Guard/Center, 6'3" 302 lbs. was a 3rd round selection in the 2006 draft from Louisville.
Cap implication - 2009 Cap# $716 thousand, the team would save $530K in cap space if released. Spitz will be a free agent after 2009 season.

Jason has been the starter at right guard and has been the backup center. It is widely believed because of size and build that he is a better fit as Center. McCarthy has stated that Spitz will get a longer look at Center while the right guard spot is probably going to be filled by Josh Sitton.

Mark Tauscher 9th year Right Tackle. 6'3" 316 lbs. was a 7th round selection in the 2000 draft from Wisconsin.
Cap Implication - Mark is a Free Agent this off season.

Tauscher has been the other cornerstone of the offensive line at Right Tackle opposite of Chad Clifton. Mark became a starter as a rookie in 2000 and has held that position since, with the exception of time missed in 2002 from a knee injury. Tauscher ended the 2008 season on IR with his second ACL injury to the same knee. He has not yet been through surgery to repair the tear, while strengthening the knee before the procedure. Tauschers return is questionable, with his status as a free agent, his age and the timing of his injury. The odds that he will be able to show the level of recovery needed to convince the Packers or other teams that he will be able to play in 2009. Combined with Marks desire to pursue a career in education following football, may sway him to call it quits after this injury.

Breno Giacomini Rookie Tackle. 6'7" 311 lbs. was a 5th round selection in the 2008 draft from Louisville.
Cap implication - 2009 cap# is $430K team would save around $340K if released

Breno was converted from TE to T in College, he didn't become a full time Tackle until his senior year. Currently is a developmental tackle for the Packers, his height at 6'7" may cause him to struggle pass blocking on the Packers with defensive ends having an easier time to get lower and being able to power him backwards.


Josh Sitton Rookie Guard. 6'3" 317 lbs was a 4th round selection in the 2008 draft from Central Florida.
Cap implication - 2009 cap# of $481K with a team savings of $288K if released.

Sitton was going to be the starting right guard until a preseason injury knocked him back down the depth chart. Sitton is believed to be the favorite for the starting role at right guard for the 2009 season.

Tony Moll 3rd year Tackle. 6'5" 306 lbs. was a 5th round selection of the 2006 draft from Nevada.
Cap implicaton - 2009 cap# is $566K with a cap savings of $530K if released.

Even though Moll has been playing primarily at right guard, Moll was drafted to be the eventual replacement for Tauscher at right Tackle. Moll has had 1 start at right tackle in 2008 following Tauschers ACL injury, and replaced by Colledge for the final game of 2008. Tony will more than likely be back with the team for 2009 giving him an opportunity for a full off season practicing at Tackle.

Allen Barbre 2nd year Guard. 6'4" 305 lbs. was a 4th round selection from the 2007 draft from Missouri Southern State.
Cap implication - 2009 cap# is $569K with a cap savings of about $350K if released.

Barbre has played in 15 games with no starts. Played Tackle in college and was switched to Guard after being drafted by the Packers. Barbre is expected to compete for one of the guard positions, but will primarily fill a back up roll for the Packers.

Off Season Needs

With the noticeable drop off in Clifton's performance and no replacement with the typical size needed for protecting Rodgers blind size, LT has to be the biggest position of need for the offensive line.

Followed by either RT or LG. With the untimely ACL injury to Tauscher, and no player that has made a stand out performance, showing that they will be a solution for a long term starter on the Oline, there is no position that is locked up. The best chance seems to be Josh Sitton at right guard.

Follow up with available FA and Draft prospect to follow.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
minnypacker
16 years ago
Jordan Gross would be my early FA target. Replace Cliffy with Gross and draft DL in the early rounds.

If Gross is franchised, go nuts after Peppers and draft a OT in round #1
shield4life
16 years ago
Can someone explain me what's php, I've been seeing it everywhere on the forum.

**Threads Merged into single "stickied" subject to avoid confusion**

**PHP= PackersHomeProject**

**First Post in thread now gives an explanation... Dfosterf 1-08-09-- Sorry for any confusion**
Glad To Be A Packers Fan.
dfosterf
16 years ago
PHP- GORDON "RED" BATTY; EQUIPMENT MANAGER


Here is an excellent primer on the job of NFL Equipment Manager:

LINK 


Gordon "Red" Batty
Equipment Manager

"A veteran in his area of expertise, Gordon 'Red' Batty is in his 16th off- season as equipment manager of the Green Bay Packers.

Batty is responsible for properly outfitting players with the safest and most advanced equipment, as well as ordering and maintaining all of the team's equipment and sideline apparel. Immediately prior to joining the Packers, he had spent 13 seasons (1981-93) in the same position with the then-Houston Oilers.

Long regarded as one of the best in the business, Batty was voted the NFL's "Equipment Manager of the Year" by his peers in 2002 at their annual meetings.

A 50-year-old native of Montreal, Batty remarkably is in his 37th off-season in the equipment field. He began his career in 1973 at age 14, as a ball boy for the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League. Six years later, he was elevated to the position of equipment manager for the Alouettes. During Batty's tenure in Montreal, the Alouettes won two Grey Cups (1974 and '77).

Batty subsequently joined the Oilers in June of 1981, in the process becoming the NFL's youngest equipment manager at age 22. He was a participant in the NFL playoffs for an amazing 12 consecutive seasons - from 1994-98 with Green Bay after seven straight postseason appearances with Houston. Batty also purports to be the first native-born Canadian to garner both a Grey Cup and Super Bowl ring, the latter distinction earned when the Packers culminated the 1996 campaign by capturing Super Bowl XXXI. Batty has also worked two Pro Bowls, most recently the 2008 Pro Bowl.

Upon being named to the Packers' staff on Jan. 24, 1994, Batty became only the fifth person in club history to hold the title of equipment manager. Born in Montreal, Batty (pronounced BATT-ee) and his wife, Joanne, have one daughter, Chelsei, 17, and one son, Cameron, 12.

Since 1994, Batty has served as the equipment coordinator for what is now known as the NFL Players Rookie Premiere preseason event. Batty is given the duty of communicating with each rookie invitee's team equipment manager to secure equipment and jerseys utilized for trading card photo shoots.

A devout National Hockey League fan, Batty has worked several All-Star Games and roughly 30 other league games. In addition, Batty worked for the Team Canada hockey team at the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin, Italy. He continues to play the game of hockey himself."

Courtesy of Green Bay Packers official website

"Red" runs a tight ship, and he better. In a previous article, it was noted how his predecessor was fired after a single warning to keep the locker room clean. "Red" and his staff do precisely that...a couple photo's:

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The locker room


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After the Lions game

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The showers

Some articles that might be of some interest:



Equipment Controversy 

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Regulate socks, but not pads? 

A small piece of trivia...

"Dad" Braisher was the Equipment Manager when Vince Lombardi ran the show. In 1961, "Dad" designed the current oval "G" logo. While there have been many logos associated with the Packers over the years, the "G" is the only thing to ever make it onto the helmet.

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Uniform regs

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a closer look
vegOmatic
16 years ago
He's been putting on seminars at Packers Fan Fest, but I don't know if he does it every year.
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CubanPenguin
16 years ago
Thats pretty interesting thanks for posting that, It's interesting that he's a fellow Canadian and that he also manages out National hockey team.
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gbpfan
16 years ago
I saw him at fan fest a few years back,he shows you what he goes through very informative.
dfosterf
16 years ago
PHP- SALARY CAP ANALYST

Melanie Marohl, Salary Cap Analyst UserPostedImage

When Melanie Marohl began working for the Packers (in 2001) as a Salary Cap analyst, only a handful of NFL teams employed someone in such a role. But today, almost every one of the 32 teams employs a person in that capacity, a trend that undoubtedly shows how important managing 'The Cap' has become.

As an analyst, Marohl's Salary Cap responsibilities vary from typing up player contracts to making use of the salary database provided by the league.

"I basically am the person that utilizes the database and finds a way to use the data to the best of our ability," she said. "Every team has access to that, but it's what you do with the data that makes you better than the next team."

Marohl operates out of a 675-square-foot office that doubles as a sort of Salary Cap War Room, displaying on the walls the salary information of every team in the NFL.

On the west wall hangs an ongoing league-wide salary study, while the south and east walls display information on Packers players and NFL free agents, respectively.

Though Marohl admits there is some challenge to being a female in the male-dominated atmosphere of football, she said it is also very rewarding.

"You have to prove yourself," she said. "Every year I get more and more responsibility, and I think that says something. I think that in the football world, it just takes some time to prove yourself."

(From the official Green Bay Packers website archives.)

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This is an old article from "The New York Times", but is absolutely the best in-depth source I have discovered to date explaining the responsibilities and life that an NFL Salary Cap Analyst leads.

Worth the read...

Link:



A Season with an NFL Salary Cap Analyst 
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