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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
In the screenshots below, you'll see some huge positional holes. I would expect the draft to fall in line with those holes.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised at all if one of these WR is drafted by the Packers.

Terrace Marshall Jr.
Sage Surratt
Seth Williams
Tamorrion Terry
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

— #Packers WR Devin Funchess took a roughly $750K paycut to stick in Green Bay after opting out last year, source said.
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Zero2Cool
3 years ago
NFL salary cap this season will be $182.5 million.
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beast
3 years ago
Traditional the Packers 2nd selection under Thompson and Gute (at least of of their top selections) has been a position with an important player going into their contract year.

Currently the entire WR group is going into their contract year this year (I say currently, because it's thought they could give Adams an extension to create more Cap room).


Also under Gute, his 1st round picks so far have always been the position with the most positional value.

Which the first tier is said to be QB, OT, Edge and CB. And second tier being TE and S.

Gute has hit them all except OT and TE in the first round, and he really could use a couple more CBs, and with Bak injured, and this draft class looks like it could have some good OTs.

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Traditional the Packers 2nd selection under Thompson and Gute (at least of of their top selections) has been a position with an important player going into their contract year.

Currently the entire WR group is going into their contract year this year (I say currently, because it's thought they could give Adams an extension to create more Cap room).


Also under Gute, his 1st round picks so far have always been the position with the most positional value.

Which the first tier is said to be QB, OT, Edge and CB. And second tier being TE and S.

Gute has hit them all except OT and TE in the first round, and he really could use a couple more CBs, and with Bak injured, and this draft class looks like it could have some good OTs.

Originally Posted by: beast 



This comment fell on deaf years last year, but I'll say it again. The WR group for 2020 was overvalued and it was believed 2021 WR group would outshine that of 2020. Now that so many teams drafted WR in 2020, I suspect the Packers can land a quality WR (or two) on Day 2.

I'm thinking (based on what I see from college player rankings) the Packers go OL, WR, OL, WR for the first four picks. This includes trading up/down.
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beast
3 years ago

This comment fell on deaf years last year, but I'll say it again. The WR group for 2020 was overvalued and it was believed 2021 WR group would outshine that of 2020. Now that so many teams drafted WR in 2020, I suspect the Packers can land a quality WR (or two) on Day 2.

I'm thinking (based on what I see from college player rankings) the Packers go OL, WR, OL, WR for the first four picks. This includes trading up/down.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


My biggest problem with WRs in this draft is that so many that are getting hype, and will past the 1st round are tiny.

A good number of them supposedly are 5'10", 185 lbs or smaller.

But yes, I've sorta been split between, Packers don't draft offensive players in the first round unless they're QBs or OTs.... and WRs Kadarius Toney and/or Terrace Marshall Jr. Might be right there for the taking.

Packers do often draft for position where there have a star going into a contract year (usually in the second selection, but all the WRs are basically in a contract year.

So many teams need OL help and so many have let OL go to get under the cap, I think we could see a very heavy run on OL early and often.

Do you really think the Packers will ignore the defense two years in a row with the top of the draft?

If they do, R.I.P. defense... and Rodgers will have a shot at another MVP as he'll have to score so many points to keep up...

They seriously need CBs... and it doesn't help that King is a UFA, Sullivan is an RFA, according to Zero2Cool someone reportedly said the Packers will be releasing Josh Jackson, the 6th CB is an RFA and was injured all year.

So it's supposively just Alexander and Hollman right now for three starting positions. I would guess Savage would be next up... but even then, Packers #3 Safety is an RFA.

Packers are in trouble for lack of coverage guys right now.... not in terms of talent, but in terms of bodies period. But also talent...

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Zero2Cool
3 years ago

Do you really think the Packers will ignore the defense two years in a row with the top of the draft?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I believe it was Ted Thompson who said it's very difficult to plug-in offensive free agents in comparison to defensive free agents. The implication was that you have to generally groom offensive players to fit into your system whereas defense you can plug in free agents with higher success. I haven't heard Brian Gutenkunst say anything of the sort, but I feel history sides with that as well.

That being said, I can see the Packers using more Day 1/2 picks on Offense than Defense, while using more free agent signings on the defensive side of the ball.

Of course, it also depends on how they've graded this upcoming rookie class. If they have a Grade A LB and a Grade B+ WR available at 29, I tend to think they'd take the LB. Trust your board and always remember that your needs now aren't your needs in December.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
Last year's draft was for MLF. It seemed like a weird draft, because they were getting guys for Matt's offense.

This year we have a new DC, so I look for defensive players to be taken. They'll probly grab a WR, but they need a coverage MLB, a CB or two and DL.

Lotta players available in free agency this year because of the cap situation too.
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nerdmann
3 years ago
Btw, Josh Jackson might get another shot here, this D is a zone heavy scheme.
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beast (3h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
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Zero2Cool (4h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
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Mucky Tundra (14h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (15h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (21h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (22h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
beast (23h) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done
Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
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beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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