Zero2Cool
Zero2Cool
4 years ago
No one wants to take 14 minutes to hear details? What a surprise. Let's just formulate narratives based on snippets instead, right? You are embarrassing.

UserPostedImage
beast
4 years ago

No one wants to take 14 minutes to hear details? What a surprise. Let's just formulate narratives based on snippets instead, right? You are embarrassing.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Hey, when I saw it last night, I didn't have time. I needed some sleep 😴💤 But I listened to it this morning.

Very good post.

After listening to that, wild guess here, but I think Leonhard wants to be able to spend time with his family, while not having to move his family around. So basically I'm thinking, if he leaves, he wants a job he knows he'll be at for the next decade or so, or it's not worth leaving his family for the season nor moving his family to the job.

Also, more control, over both his players and scheme, which he has right now as the top defensive guy at Wisconsin.



UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
4 years ago

Hey, when I saw it last night, I didn't have time. I needed some sleep 😴💤 But I listened to it this morning.

Very good post.

After listening to that, wild guess here, but I think Leonhard wants to be able to spend time with his family, while not having to move his family around. So basically I'm thinking, if he leaves, he wants a job he knows he'll be at for the next decade or so, or it's not worth leaving his family for the season nor moving his family to the job.

Also, more control, over both his players and scheme, which he has right now as the top defensive guy at Wisconsin.

Originally Posted by: beast 


Sleep? How embarrassing of you need sleep!! GET YOU SOME COFFEE MY GUY!! Okay, time for me to be on decaf!

Okay, being non-prick here. Initially, I was feeling like, WTF did you even answer the call if you weren't ready? Well, it turns out the Packers called him and acquiesced. He and LaFleur hit it off pretty well during their zoom meeting. And then continued to hit it off well during their in-person meeting. He received an offer and after sleeping on it he decided it just wasn't the right time for him. I can respect that.

If someone calls me saying they want me as Director of IT, I'm going to interview. I'm going to interview because maybe THEY know I'm ready, even if I don't realize it. If I feel like whoa, this would be great, but yeah I am just not ready for this kind of time commitment or responsabi8ilty or whatever. Then I decline. I've been in similar situations before. And the pay was substantially more than I was currently making at the time. Turning down the money was hard, but I felt it was best for the company and myself.

I've read some morons on Twitter fault LaFleur for offering the position to someone who didn't accept it. And also saying LaFleur panicked and hired Joe Barry just hours after being turned down. I question if these people wipe their own ass because they clearly have no capacity to comprehend hiring processes or being prepared. That's not to ridicule though. It's better to inform and educate. (((Practice what ya preach, Kevin!))) I think LaFleur knew landing Leonhard was a long shot, however, it was WORTH the long shot. And knowing it was a long shot, he had another candidate lined up just in case. Instead of blasting LaFleur for not getting his primary candidate, maybe we should credit him for being prepared to move onto his next best candidate?

Another narrative I've read -- Packers never offered Leonhard a position. And that Leonhard backed out knowing (or feeling) the position would be offered to someone else in a manner to save face. I don't think we will ever know because the Packers aren't the kind of organization that is going to say "Nah, we didn't even offer Leonhard the position".

Based on the stupid amount of details I've read about this whole thing. I think Leonhard was offered the position, really wanted to take it and something flipped his mind into declining. I also believe LaFleur knew the chances of landing Leonhard were slim and was prepared for that.

I guess I'm just a half-full kinda dude. Oh, and if anyone disagrees with me, you're just a dummy head. 🥳
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
4 years ago

No one wants to take 14 minutes to hear details? What a surprise. Let's just formulate narratives based on snippets instead, right? You are embarrassing.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I saw the link to this thread yesterday. I didn't come in here. I didn't listen to the talk either. To paraphrase Civil War general Herman Haupt, "I don't care for Jim Leonhard one pinch of owl dung."

It's not that I don't like the man. I'm sure he's a fine person. It's because he chose not to join the Packers organization. His reasons are his own. It doesn't matter to me what they are. It could be because he wants stability for his family. It could be because he wants to spend more time with them. It could be because he thinks he will be the next HC in Buckyland or another power conference team. If so he will have more control than he will as a DC in the NFL. He would make more money this next season in GB but perhaps not so over his entire career. So what? It's his and his wive's choice. Going on a talk show and discussing it is fine but I still don't care.

But then it's the off season and what else is there to talk about now, right? So I clicked the link and here I am.
UserPostedImage
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (13h) : It wasn't. He simply wanted his money back. They refused. Cops came. They gave him his money in end.
    dfosterf (11-May) : Fortunately it doesn't sound like a big deal
    Zero2Cool (10-May) : Elgton Jenkins Involved In Strip Club Dispute ... Cops Called To Mitigate
    Zero2Cool (10-May) : Derek Carr retires. Shoulder must be bad.
    Zero2Cool (10-May) : Packers Pro Shop is not currently printing Golden #22 jerseys “until his number is confirmed after Training Camp.”
    greengold (9-May) : My impression is he's a Peruvian soccer fan not a bares fan.
    Martha Careful (9-May) : Favored Illinois Bishop?
    beast (9-May) : Technically, the I in FIB stands for Italian now, Si?
    dfosterf (8-May) : I never thought I'd live long enough to call a pope a FIB, but here we are
    Martha Careful (8-May) : Chicago produces a pope before it produces a 4000 yard passing quarterback
    wpr (8-May) : HAHAHA Mucky Comment of the day.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : According to reports, Mel Kiper is furious that Sanders wasn't selected as the new Pope
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Time taken to get picked:
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : New Pope: 2 days | Shedeur Sanders: 3 days
    Zero2Cool (8-May) : Collin Whitchurch @cowhitchurch · 1h Chicago got a pope before it got a QB to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.
    Mucky Tundra (8-May) : New Pope from Chicago; in other words, the city produced a Pope before a 4000 yard passer
    beast (7-May) : My first name starts with R and my beer belly is quite voluptuous! Thank you for noticing 😏
    Zero2Cool (7-May) : beast, you're just one R from being voluptuous.
    Zero2Cool (7-May) : And now some Packers blogger is like Doubs to Steelers makes sense!!!!
    Zero2Cool (7-May) : You saw me Tweet???
    beast (7-May) : Supposedly Steelers will be trading WR George Pickens to the Cowboys for a 3rd and late round pick swap
    Zero2Cool (5-May) : Ravens release Justin Tucker, err D. Watson Jr?
    Zero2Cool (5-May) : Cardinals have signed TE Josiah Deguara.
    Zero2Cool (5-May) : If I were to "Google" it, then I wouldn't read it in your words.
    Martha Careful (5-May) : Yes, in the military S2’s work on IPB, PERCEC, PHYSEC and IO
    dfosterf (4-May) : FYI civilian companies swipe the S2 designation from the military. S2 is the intelligence branch up to brigade level. G2 is division level.
    dfosterf (4-May) : Google it. Make sure to tack NFL on it or you will get the military meaning
    Zero2Cool (4-May) : S2?
    beast (4-May) : Seems like the S2 has a love/hate relationship with professional scouts.
    beast (4-May) : In theory, the S2 test how quickly a QBs brain can solve game like issues and how quickly they can do it.
    dfosterf (4-May) : Are you gentlemen and at least one lady familiar with the S2 cognition
    Zero2Cool (4-May) : Maybe there isn't an issue.
    beast (4-May) : NFL really needs to fix their position labeling issue, but I don't think they care
    Zero2Cool (1-May) : Packers did not activate the fifth-year options for linebacker Quay Walker, with the goal of signing him to a contract extension.
    Zero2Cool (1-May) : Matthew Golden spoke with Randall Cobb before draft. Looked like chance encounter.
    packerfanoutwest (1-May) : from a head left turn?
    packerfanoutwest (1-May) : someone drunk?
    Zero2Cool (1-May) : Unlikely.
    dfosterf (30-Apr) : How long until Jeff Sperbeck's family sues John Elway ?
    Zero2Cool (30-Apr) : Packers are exercising the fifth-year option on DT Devonte Wyatt, locking in a guaranteed $12.9M for the 2026 season.
    beast (30-Apr) : Sounds like P Luke Elzinga has a rookie try out opportunity from the Titans
    dfosterf (30-Apr) : Luke Elzinga Punter Oklahoma stil unsigned. Green Bay has been mentioned as good fit
    beast (30-Apr) : The Packers re-signed three exclusive rights free agents WR Melton, P Whelan and RB Wilson.
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : February 5, 2002 (age 23) ok no. packers.com is wrong
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : Micah Robinson is only 19??
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : 6 first rounders on Packers defense now
    Zero2Cool (29-Apr) : LB Isaiah Simmons. Signed. Called it!!! Oh yeah!
    Martha Careful (29-Apr) : ty bboystyle...fat fingers
    bboystyle (29-Apr) : Tom*
    Martha Careful (28-Apr) : RIP Packer Safety Tim Brown
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
    Vikings
    Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    9-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    8-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

    8-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    6-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    6-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    6-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    6-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    6-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

    5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    5-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    4-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    3-May / Packers Draft Threads / Martha Careful

    3-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.