Cheesey
4 years ago
Wow.....what’s going on here?
When I first came here, people gave opinions, we could discuss religion, politics, the NFL, just about anything and we respected each other and remained friends.
The few that came here that didn’t abide by that were pressured into leaving.
Now it seems anything goes. People can make fun of you and your beliefs, bully you, and do whatever they want.
It’s really taken away a lot of the fun of being here.
It’s much less like family as it used to be, and that’s sad.
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go.pack.go.
4 years ago
I’m just wondering why such a big deal is being made about Vrabel not challenging? The play literally went in our favor and he’s not our coach. Why are we complaining about him not challenging?
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wpr
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4 years ago

I’m just wondering why such a big deal is being made about Vrabel not challenging? The play literally went in our favor and he’s not our coach. Why are we complaining about him not challenging?

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 



Again, it's not complaint. It's an observation. It's the same thing as wondering why Carolina went for the FG last week when they were moving the ball and had a better chance of getting a td on that drive than they would have if they recovered the onside kick.
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Cheesey
4 years ago

Again, it's not complaint. It's an observation. It's the same thing as wondering why Carolina went for the FG last week when they were moving the ball and had a better chance of getting a td on that drier than they would have if they recovered the onside kick.

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THats correct. It’s a discussion.
To me it’s interesting to get the thoughts on both sides. It doesn’t mean one is right and the other wrong. It’s just opinion.
I never took any of it as “complaining”.
Just questioning why a coach would make a certain decision, and wondering how they came to that conclusion.
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TheKanataThrilla
4 years ago
The review may have shown Jones to have stepped out of bounds, but Vrabel was on the opposite sideline and there was a ref really close to the play. I understand that Aaron Rodgers rushing up to the line could suggest that Jones may have stepped out, but perhaps Vrabel figured that a ref in pretty good position got the call right and didn't want to risk his challenge and timeout.
Zero2Cool
4 years ago

The review may have shown Jones to have stepped out of bounds, but Vrabel was on the opposite sideline and there was a ref really close to the play. I understand that Aaron Rodgers rushing up to the line could suggest that Jones may have stepped out, but perhaps Vrabel figured that a ref in pretty good position got the call right and didn't want to risk his challenge and timeout.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Vrabel said they didn't get a replay quick enough. Aaron Rodgers said that home field helps in this scenario because the replay person will hold off showing the replay until the last second. There is some gamesmanship going on.

I've tried and I cannot get behind those saying the Titans were wrong for not calling a timeout/throw challenge flag once they saw the Packers running to line up. If you let the team dictate how you use your timeouts and challenges, you're going to lose. If you go and watch the TV copy, you'll notice that viewers didn't even see the clear evidence Jones was out of bounds until moments prior to the ball being snapped. If Titans players were jumping up and down telling Vrabel to challenge, then I can see fault in Vrabel, but even then you can't throw a the red flag every time a player tells you to. That's the inmates running the asylum. It was also a one score game where the Titans last two possessions they marched down the field for TD's. Those timeouts and/or challenges could have came in handy late.

As for why Carolina went for a FG (2:04) the week prior. That's because they wanted to get the extra clock stoppage of the two minute warning. That's why they kicked the FG and kicked the ball through the end zone This is really good clock management. The new kickoff rules make onside kick recoveries a bit harder so you're hoping your defense can get a three an out. Then you want to score a TD and get a two point conversion.

You people have no idea how lucky you are to have someone as smart as me to dispense such information. 😋🤣🥱
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