KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
3 years ago
What a different defense without Akiem Hicks.

Solid interior defensive line play sets up the entire defense. Conversely, weak interior line defense creates problems that even the best edge guys and linebackers can't overcome.

Gutey, take note.
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
beast
3 years ago

What a different defense without Akiem Hicks.

Solid interior defensive line play sets up the entire defense. Conversely, weak interior line defense creates problems that even the best edge guys and linebackers can't overcome.

Gutey, take note.

Originally Posted by: KRK 


Exactly, and they're missing their starting NT who opted out of the season and been struggling there all season.

But people want to blame Pettine (and I'm certainly not saying he's completely innocent), but I don't give a crap who've you got coaching the DTs/ILBers need to be improved. Scheme changes along won't fix that unless you completely sell out, then you'd be begging the other team not to throw bomb passes.

They NEED better players, on top of maybe some coaching changes. Still surprise they didn't draft one DT, CB nor WR. I know they're going for BPA, but arguably the 3 biggest needs and you don't even take a swing anywhere?
UserPostedImage
KRK
  • KRK
  • Veteran Member
3 years ago
The Chicago Bears never have fired a coach during the season, but Matt Nagy’s job status is in the spotlight after a ‘flat-out embarrassing’ loss

By COLLEEN KANE CHICAGO TRIBUNE NOV 30, 2020 AT 4:41 PM

Matt Nagy sat down for a Zoom call with reporters 12 hours after the Chicago Bears’ 41-25 loss to the Green Bay Packers and called the performance what it was: “flat-out embarrassing.”

Nagy’s team sank to a new low Sunday night as its losing streak reached five games, causing questions to arise about the job security of many at Halas Hall. The Bears coach said he hoped everybody in the building lost sleep as they examined what went wrong when they fell behind by 24 points in the first half and trailed by 31 against the NFC North leaders.

“I know this: We better wake our tails up,” Nagy said. “Every freaking coach on the staff, every player, better wake up and start understanding where we’re at. Have some personal pride. Have a freaking sense of urgency. Know where we’re at. Have some pride into who we’re playing for and why we do this and then go find a way to win as a team. That’s my challenge to every single person in that building this week.

“Yesterday was flat-out embarrassing, and our guys know it. … But we’re going to step up — all coaches, all players — and we’ve got five games left. For us, it’s our own personal challenge as to where we’re at and how we’re going to do this thing. But that performance yesterday is ridiculous and can’t happen. And obviously that starts with me.”

Indeed, Nagy’s job status — and that of general manager Ryan Pace — has moved into a glaring spotlight with the Bears falling to 5-6.

The Bears never have fired a coach in season. Not Marc Trestman after a 55-14 loss to the Packers dropped the Bears to 3-6 in 2014. And not John Fox after the Bears lost five straight in 2017, including back-to-back embarrassments against the Philadelphia Eagles and 49ers, to drop to 3-9. Both were fired after the final game in those seasons.

And so it would appear Nagy, who is 25-18 over three seasons, has five games to stockpile evidence for his case that the McCaskey family should keep him around. The Houston Texans, Atlanta Falcons and Detroit Lions already have fired their head coaches this season.

Nagy said Sunday night he was more focused on keeping his team together amid the challenges than he was worried about losing his job. He reiterated that Monday while also saying he understands the potential ramifications of such a slide.

“That’s all a part of our business,” Nagy said. “Not just head coaches but coordinators, position coaches, all of our families, we all sign up for that. That comes along with where we’re at.

“I can’t worry about that right now. … When you lose five in a row like this, you’ve got to come up with different solutions, different answers and then you’ve got to have that pride. So put all of that other stuff aside. I have to worry about every single day being the leader for these guys and this team and to understand, ‘OK, where are our warts at? And whatever they are, let’s clean them up.’ ”

Leadership isn’t Nagy’s biggest issue, though it is bound to be tested even more if the Bears can’t pull themselves up against a weak closing schedule that includes the Lions, Texans, Minnesota Vikings and Jacksonville Jaguars before another meeting with the Packers.

While Nagy on Monday called out his defense, which allowed the Packers to rush for 182 yards and Aaron Rodgers to throw four touchdown passes without a takeaway or a sack, his offense has been the primary culprit during the losing streak.

Nagy has made many changes in an effort to fix one of the worst offenses in the league. He brought in several new offensive coaches in the offseason, benched quarterback Mitch Trubisky for Nick Foles and then brought Trubisky back and gave up play calling to offensive coordinator Bill Lazor.

None has produced the desired results, and the Bears remain 31st in the league, ahead of only the New York Jets, with 305.5 yards per game and 4.7 yards per play.

The failure has put Nagy in the position of trying to drum up motivation for a stretch run to change the narrative on his tenure, as unlikely as that might seem after a loss like the one at Lambeau Field.

He at least knows some of his players feel his pain. Outside linebacker Khalil Mack said afterward the performance was “unacceptable” and “very frustrating.” And wide receiver Anthony Miller tweeted, “(Expletive) embarrassing.”

“Right now is an extreme low,” Nagy said. “It’s not fun at all. It stinks. But if you fight, if you care, if you have a little pride, if your DNA allows you to get a little pissed off and angry, maybe then good things happen.

“Check yourself, and that’s where there’s some soul searching. That’s what the soul searching means. It doesn’t mean point fingers. It doesn’t mean blame. That’s not what we do. That’s not how we roll. But you better have some stinking fire and you better have some care. And if you have that, I promise you with the talent that we have, good things will happen. But you’ve got to do it. Enough is enough. We all feel it.”
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
nerdmann
3 years ago
Very good offensive coach. Would be interesting to see him with a real QB.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
3 years ago

Very good offensive coach. Would be interesting to see him with a real QB.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He might be good, but I hate how he got away from the run when the run was clearly their strength last year. Then figured it out and the team started winning half way through the season but too late.

Also didn't like how predictable the plays become at times, when he'd show a clear two way play, then he'd go third surprise option! Which is extremely smart... but he over and over did it, to the point I was correctly guess it's the third surprise option with the least amount of blockers to catch them off guard but when you over do it, it's no longer a surprise.

So I'm not sure If want him as play caller, even if he's great at setting up.
UserPostedImage
Cheesey
3 years ago
“Chic-A-go-go”......sounds like the name of a strip club!😂

I hope the Lions can beat them this week. That, and I hope the Vikings lose. If both those things happen, we should be able to coast to the North title.
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (14h) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (19h) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (19h) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (21h) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (21h) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Pretty sure Jets fired their scouting staff and just pluck former Packers.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Jets sign Anders Carlson to their 53.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : When you cycle the weeks, the total over remains for season. But you get your W/L for that selected week. Confusing.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the total and percentage are the same as the previous weeks
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : I don't follow what you are saying. The totals are not the same as last week.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : ok so then wht are the totals the same as last week?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : NFL Pick'em is auto updated when NFL Scores tab is clicked
Martha Careful (19-Nov) : The offense was OK. Let's not forget the Bear defense is very very good.
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Who updates the leaderboard on NFLPickem?
beast (19-Nov) : Has the Packers offense been worse since the former Jets coach joined the Packers?
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Offense gets his ass in gear, this could be good.
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : Backup QB helped with three wins. Special Teams contributed to three wins.
bboystyle (18-Nov) : Lions played outside thats why. They scored 16 and 17 in the only 2 outside games this year
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : The rest of the NFL is catching up to Packers ... kicking is an issue throughout league
packerfanoutwest (18-Nov) : Packers DL Kenny Clark: We knew 'we were going to block' Bears' game-winning field goal attempt
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Lions seem to be throttling everyone, but only (only) got 24 lol maybe the rain is why
Zero2Cool (18-Nov) : Packers vs Lions game doesn't seem so bad.
beast (18-Nov) : Dennis Green "They are what we thought they were, and we let them off the hook!"
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : comment of the day Z2Cool "Bears better than we want to admit. Packers worse than we think. It's facts."
Mucky Tundra (17-Nov) : my worst case scenario: Bears fix their oline and get a coach like Johnson from the Lions and his scheme
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Bears get OL fixed amd we might have a problem
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Pretty sure they already have scouting reports on guys who aren't even starting for their college team. The future is now for me.
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : I tend to let Gute and Co. Worry about the future.
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
beast (17-Nov) : That's great news and Packers need to keep upgrading their OL, DL and DBs this off-season, so missing one guy doesn't kill them
buckeyepackfan (17-Nov) : Jaire and Evans Williams are both ACTIVE! Good news.
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : The badgers really need to change the whole offensive scheme. No draws no screens plus the quarterback is marginal
Cheesey (17-Nov) : If the Badgers had a decent QB, they would have won. The guy can't hit a wide open receiver
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : chop block
Martha Careful (17-Nov) : there was a very questionable job Block call that upon viewing replay was very borderline
beast (17-Nov) : How so? (I didn't watch)
Zero2Cool (17-Nov) : Badgers got hosed vs Oregon
packerfanoutwest (16-Nov) : damn,he hasn't played since week 2
Mucky Tundra (15-Nov) : poor guy can't catch a break
wpr (15-Nov) : wow. That three different things for the kid.
Zero2Cool (15-Nov) : MarShawn Lloyd has appendicitis according to Matt LaFleur.
Zero2Cool (14-Nov) : He probably plays DB.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
3h / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

19-Nov / GameDay Threads / Martha Careful

18-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.