Zero2Cool
4 years ago
This is basically my summation of what I've read and mixing in my knowledge!

Packers reach out to the Texans for WR Will Fuller. Texans are most likely getting a 3rd round compensatory pick in 2022 for when the WR leaves after this season. The Texans want a 2nd round pick while the Packers offer up a 4th round pick.

I've read complaints about why not just meet in the middle and give up a 3rd! The NFL salary cap is going to be lower next year and therefore those draft picks are going to be that much more important.

Fuller would have been a seven game (plus playoffs) rental (not eight due to COVID-19 rules) for a 3rd round pick.

Let's not forget Fuller's injury history.

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I'm guessing if the Packers could have secured a multi-year (2-4 years) deal, they would have dropped a 3rd round pick on him, or a 2nd round pick.

We should keep in mind that the smaller cap in 2021 to work with and a plethora of free agents to re-sign or let go.

Personally, I don't feel WR is why won't win the Super Bowl. I also think if this would have been someone like Darius Leonard, the Packers would have dropped a 3rd round to rent him for 7 games plus playoffs including Super Bowl.
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Cheesey
4 years ago
I agree. He’s not the reason we won’t win the super bowl.
Our lack of a decent defense is why.
Like last year, we will beat lesser teams, and if we have to go up against a good team, we will get smoked.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Crap, I forgot to elaborate on contract negations. Packers have Davante Adams averaging something like $14 million on his latest contract. I can see Fuller camp looking at other WR contracts recently and wanting $14-$16 and the Packers going, whoa, hold on ... we're not paying him more than Adams.
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beast
4 years ago
I think it's simple, due to the decrease in Cap space, we don't have the cash to resign Jones, Bak, Linsley, King and all of our other FAs.

So we don't have enough cap, bringing in another guy at a different position isn't going to help this...

As we have seen with the Bears and trading for Mack, trading for a player and then paying them is really paying the price twice, which we can't afford to do, and it doesn't maximum value, as the Raiders have rebuild and the Bears had one good year.


And a WR would really help, but it's not going to put us over the top... a star DT might, but not a WR, plus Lazard is hopefully coming back.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Texans WR Will Fuller V says on Instagram he's been suspended for six games for violating the league's PED policy.

He's now out for the rest of the 2020 season and will miss the 2021 season opener.

Fuller is scheduled to be a free agent in March.
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beast
4 years ago

Texans WR Will Fuller V says on Instagram he's been suspended for six games for violating the league's PED policy.

He's now out for the rest of the 2020 season and will miss the 2021 season opener.

Fuller is scheduled to be a free agent in March.

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Another good non-move from Gute.

I wonder how much that NT from the Giants would have cost.

Another problem with contract year guys, everyone is wanting prices like the market is still going up, and we know it's going down... so it'd be harder to resign anyone right now.

I'm still thinking we might franchise tag Aaron Jones if we can't work out a long term deal. Which will t let the market reset a bit and give Dillon another year to show he's ready and another year for the Packers to get some depth, as Dexter Williams looked horrible reading blocks between the tackles.

If UDFA RB Patrick Taylor can get healthy, I think he might be interesting to watch... one year play maker in college but showed a lot of potential.
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Zero2Cool (1h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (1h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (1h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (1h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (1h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (1h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (1h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (2h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (3h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (3h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (3h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (3h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (3h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (4h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (4h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (4h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (5h) : I see what you did there Mucky
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Mucky Tundra (5h) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
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Zero2Cool (6h) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (6h) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (7h) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (7h) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (8h) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (8h) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (8h) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (8h) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (8h) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (8h) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (8h) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (8h) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (8h) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (8h) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (8h) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
Zero2Cool (8h) : Yes, if they win one of three, they are lock. If they lose out, they can be eliminated.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : as I just said,,gtheyh are in no matter what
Zero2Cool (8h) : Packers should get in. I just hope it's not 7th seed. Feels dirty.
packerfanoutwest (8h) : If packers lose out, no matter what, they are in
packerfanoutwest (8h) : both teams can not male the playoffs....falcon hold the tie breaker
packerfanoutwest (8h) : if bucs win out they win their division
beast (8h) : Fine, Buccaneers and Falcons can get ahead of us
packerfanoutwest (8h) : falcons are already ahead of us
beast (8h) : Packers will get in
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