KRK
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4 years ago
Nerd needled

All defenses have been struggling this year. That's the thing. We need to separate out the factors involved to make a proper diagnosis

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1. lets see how the 49 defense struggles next week. Bears Bengals Bills Buckaneers aren't.

2. We suck. We are bottom third.

Nerd, you are one of my favorite posters. I have opined as to what the problems are. If you disagree with my analysis, I would like to know what you think the issues are....and how to correct them.


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beast
4 years ago
I think the main problem is lack of talent, no matter who's coaching, and while Pettine might not be a top 8 defensive coordinator, I think he might be a top 16, he just needs some more talent at CB and especially DL.

That being said... if the the Broncos (under the very fire happy Jon Elway) fire Vic Fangio... I'm calling him up and seeing if he's interested in the job.

Gregg Williams might be another interesting name, but at times his personality just rubs me the wrong way... that being said, while his teams have been bad, it's looked like he's gotten more out of the talent than people thought a coach would. Though the Jets haven't won a game this year... of course, that's not all on the defense...

But I don't think just firing Pettine is the answer until you know whom you might get to replace him.

Packers new DB coach has some experience, if they want to fire Pettine and have someone from within run it the rest of the year.

Though, another factor, I think the defensive staff is pretty good... they just need more talent (IMO).
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago

I think the main problem is lack of talent, no matter who's coaching, and while Pettine might not be a top 8 defensive coordinator, I think he might be a top 16, he just needs some more talent at CB and especially DL.

Originally Posted by: beast 




Maybe Pettine scheme just needs LBs like Lawrence Taylor? Then again, not sure even Taylor could have covered. Might have helped to have 11 on the field, but this snip here might have cut out the Safety who's probably forty yards deep. 🥺

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nerdmann
4 years ago

Nerd needled.

1. lets see how the 49 defense struggles next week. Bears Bengals Bills Buckaneers aren't.

2. We suck. We are bottom third.

Nerd, you are one of my favorite posters. I have opined as to what the problems are. If you disagree with my analysis, I would like to know what you think the issues are....and how to correct them.

Originally Posted by: KRK 


Thinking about it more, I think the defense did it's job. I mean, the great Aaron Rodgers can't score 28 against a depleted D where even the 8th string grocery baggers are going down and needing to be replaced? Come on man.

Look how we lit them up the first time.

Recall the NCFCG. We gave up a ton of yards on the ground and too many points.

Now let's look at the offense in that game. THREE turnovers by our star all-world QB? How many yards would the Niners have without those THREE extra drives? How many fewer points would they have?

How many MORE would we have had?

Pettine's philosophy is to let them HAVE the run. Pettine WANTS teams to run on us. Because that's not how you win in GoodellBall.

Sure it would be nice to stuff the run every time but, but thst takes lowest priority in building a defense.

The Chiefs ranked LOWER thsn us in rushing D last year. Weren't they third from the bottom? They weren't very good.

Difference is, their QB came to play. This is why Gutey drafted Jordan Love.


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nerdmann
4 years ago
Wanna beat the Niners? Get a lead. Force Garrapalo to beat you in the air.
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KRK
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4 years ago

Thinking about it more, I think the defense did it's job.
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Difference is, their QB came to play. This is why Gutey drafted Jordan Love.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Of course, the defense getting ripped to shreds...and it is Rodgers fault.

They didn't do their job...they didn't come close.


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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Imagine if those boys would form tackle instead of thump tackle with their shoulder? They probably wouldn't land on the injury report with "shoulder". 🤔💭
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Cheesey
4 years ago
You would think at this point, so called professional players would know how to tackle.
But our guys slap at them and watch them run by.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
We had 11. Still not a fan of 91 back there.


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