Zero2Cool
4 years ago
WR Equanimeous St. Brown and LB Kamal Martin. They should be eligible to return if healthy, right? Who you excited about? None? One? Both?
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yooperfan
4 years ago
If I could only pick one, it would be Kamal Martin.
I don't have any faith that ESB will ever see much of the field.
He makes hay on IR.
beast
4 years ago
Yes, both have missed 3 games and therefore eligible to return if Packers see fit, though, I would think they might have them practing some first, as I believe (not fully sure) they get a 3 week practice window should the team elect and then they would have him make a decision, and they could make a decision at any point

We never did hear much about St. Browns injury it details about it, other than a knee injury... no way to tell if it's a short term injury or a season long one...

Martin injury was supposed to be a 6 week injury, two weeks before the season, so in theory, he might be ready to go...

I was so excited about Martin preseason, as he sounded like clearly among the top 2 ILBers we had... but bring him back smartly, I don't want him rushed back just to get injured again...

St. Brown, we need another WR, and he's said to be smart player according to LaFleur, but he really hasn't shown much (even in preseason) since his rookie year... but I do think he could be a great fit in the large slot WR role LaFleur likes, but he has to stay healthy, and battle the TEs for playing time in that role.
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nerdmann
4 years ago

Yes, both have missed 3 games and therefore eligible to return if Packers see fit, though, I would think they might have them practing some first, as I believe (not fully sure) they get a 3 week practice window should the team elect and then they would have him make a decision, and they could make a decision at any point

We never did hear much about St. Browns injury it details about it, other than a knee injury... no way to tell if it's a short term injury or a season long one...

Martin injury was supposed to be a 6 week injury, two weeks before the season, so in theory, he might be ready to go...

I was so excited about Martin preseason, as he sounded like clearly among the top 2 ILBers we had... but bring him back smartly, I don't want him rushed back just to get injured again...

St. Brown, we need another WR, and he's said to be smart player according to LaFleur, but he really hasn't shown much (even in preseason) since his rookie year... but I do think he could be a great fit in the large slot WR role LaFleur likes, but he has to stay healthy, and battle the TEs for playing time in that role.

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Let's see what they got, but only if they're ready. We need guys at both spots.

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4 years ago
I want both of them to get into the mix but if I could only have one of them I will go with Martin. let's see what he has.
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yooperfan
4 years ago
The Packers have designated ESB and Kamal Martin for return from IR today.
Hopefully we get to see what they got.
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4 years ago
I wonder who gets released from the 53 when they come back? I've lost count. How many spots are open? Probably Shepherd at WR and Garvin?
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beast
4 years ago

I wonder who gets released from the 53 when they come back? I've lost count. How many spots are open? Probably Shepherd at WR and Garvin?

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I believe the Packers have two open spots on the 53 and TE with an ACL tear, so I'm theory they got 3 spots that could be open.

And so no one should have to be released unless they bringing four players to the 53 man roster full time.
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all_about_da_packers
4 years ago

If I could only pick one, it would be Kamal Martin.
I don't have any faith that ESB will ever see much of the field.
He makes hay on IR.

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This is the problem with cr*pping on a player: you can come off as an idiot to those that have insight beyond generalities you rely on. Equanimeous, while having been injured, makes his hay because of his tantalizing potential. He had production (albeit not top-tier WR level) as a rookie, but I'll go back to his rookie year in TC practices. I know for a fact that in at least one open practice where he was facing Jaire in one-on-ones that EQ's burst and speed were posing problems for Jaire. As in, full-speed he would have a step or two on Jaire in those practice one-on-ones. Now I get Jaire was also a rookie at the time (as was EQ), but things like that stand out in open TC practices.

Then look at the games EQ did play in, particularly focusing on his snaps in the slot. EQ is sudden, but it is his after-the-catch ability that stands out where you see his shiftiness allow him to make defenders miss after he caught the ball (his height giving him a large catch radius). For example, look at the Titan preseason game in 2018 to see what I mean. There are very often clear windows to throw to him in-part due to the fact that no one is even close to his height. You cannot teach that amount height.

If I told you we had a young WR that was 6'5 and had speed/agility that could cause even Jaire to look a step or two slow, you are doing all that you can to develop that WR. That is why, despite the injured and dire numbers at WR, the Packers have not cut EQ to get/bring back another WR (be it Sanu, Kumerow, etc.). It's also why I'm really interested to see what he can do - keeping in mind he hasn't played game football in 1.5 years. EQ's combination of height, speed and game tape he has put out there make me think he could be a weapon in LaFleur's offense.

If not for the emergence of Krys Barnes, I'd have gone with Martin. But, given Barnes has held his own in both running and passing downs, I'm not sure where exactly Martin can make a contribution since the Packers rarely employ two ILBs side-by-side. And giving LaFleur another weapon to work into his offense is really intriguing.
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Zero2Cool
4 years ago
Equanimeous is gonna tear some shit up when given his opportunity. You haters can cry a river and drowned in it!! 😍
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