RB AJ Dillon, Packers 2nd round selection· Page 3

beast
Select Member Topic Starter

5 years ago

But by constantly following Jones around and tipping off what kind of coverage you're in, you've also revealed your hand.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

Yes, that is why there are a ton of motions in this offense.

GB can just run at the vacated LB spot/get a mismatch with the DBs or just go completely opposite of wherever Jones went and play off the misdirection. By assuming that Jones moving around means he's being thrown to and you can neglect Dillons receiving, you've just left yourself exposed to GB simply throwing to Dillon.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

There is no extra vacated spot... there is no assuming in this...

The defense is simply making an adjustment that they're used to covering extra WRs and have packages planed for it, while they might not for 2 RBs... the easy solution is to figure out which RB is more like a WR on the field and treat him as such.

It's literally no different than the other defenses, except you label Jones as a WR while Dillion is in...

The only complexity that comes with that, is when your labeled RB (Dillion), doesn't stay in the backfield pre-snap. Then you have to make the decision to switch your defensive call, or the more common, have your non-cover LB go cover him and have your you cover LB play the light RB in the backfield.

wpr
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#22

Actually every rule has it's exception, and Barry Sanders (in his prime) is the exception to that rule, you just took it one step too far...

Also at the same point, good RBs can over come more mistakes by the blocking, or counter a good defensive move. Dillion doesn't have great quickness, but does he have any other weaknesses? He runs a faster 40 time than Jones... he's physical and can wear teams out, reads his blocking pretty well.

Originally Posted by: beast

beast you missed my smart ass point. Using Barry was not a mistake it was intentional. I could have also used Walter Payton. He too ha some weak OLs, got hit in the backfield and yet still managed to gain 8 yards.

go.pack.go.
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#23

One interesting take that was thrown out on Twitter: with Dillon, you can line Jones up all over and not lose the threat of running the ball.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

You can also do the same with Jamal Williams.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

5 years ago

#24

One interesting take that was thrown out on Twitter: with Dillon, you can line Jones up all over and not lose the threat of running the ball.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra

What I like about this is you can have both Jones and Dillon in the backfield. Jones is a receiving threat. He can run those wheel routes and what LB is gonna be able to hang with him? You gonna put a Safety on him? Fine, that opens up the middle of the field then.

I'm excited to see how this kid pans out.

porky88
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#25

Nerd let me let you in on a secret, the run game failures are tied directly to the blocking or the lack thereof of the offensive line. You could have Barry Sanders in the backfield if the line doesn't open a hole it ain't gonna happen.

Originally Posted by: wpr

I don't know... Barry Sanders didn't run behind much of an OL. I think he made his own holes. 😉

http://www.row12.com/

porky88
Veteran Member

5 years ago

#26

My immediate reaction to the pick was indifference, in large part because RB isn't much of a need. I will say we saw Denzel Mims go a couple of picks ahead of the Packers, which did frustrate me.

Again, though, I will backup the logic behind the pick. Aaron Jones is a free agent this year. He's probably not going to resign with the Packers because they have higher priorities. I'm not much of a Jamaal Williams fan, either. I think he's a backup. If you believe Dillon is a long-term starter, then I understand the pick. In fact, it's practical. One year from now I don't want to enter the draft with Dexter Williams as my primary RB, with Jones and Williams playing on other teams.

Would this have been my pick? No, it would not have been. I would have taken Bryan Edwards from South Carolina (and maybe even traded back to regain a pick).

Nevertheless, I understand the logic behind the selection. It makes sense to shore up the RB position for the future, especially with uncertainty moving into 2021 and a coach that values running the football.

http://www.row12.com/

wpr
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#27

I don't know... Barry Sanders didn't run behind much of an OL. I think he made his own holes. 😉

Originally Posted by: porky88

yes I know. See my previous post.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

5 years ago

#28

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

dfosterf (25-Jul) : It's my one day deal complaint dept. on shareholder meeting day

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Probably a homer access credential intimidation kinda thing

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Meathead "journalists" skip this, concentrating on operational revenue when convenient. They switch when net revenue is more favorable.

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Resulting in an actual drop of net revenue of 12.5%. She is from Minnesota. Just sayin'

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Any plans to hold Maureen Smith (CFO) accountable for a 95% drop in investment revenue?

Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : In your face, HBO!

Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @ByRyanWood Mark Murphy: “A great source of pride of mine is that we were never on Hard Knocks.”

Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : *years

Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @mattschneidman Mark Murphy says he anticipates “many Packers games” being played in Germany, Ireland and/or the U.K. over the next 5-10 yea

dfosterf (25-Jul) : *cafeteria* I have hit my head also, so I sympathize

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Possibly hit his head leaning into the glass protecting the food in the cafateria

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Maybe a low flying drone

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Did Savion Williams run into a goalpost or something?

Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : also, no bueno when a guy starts getting concussions right off the bat in his career

Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Concussion is worse. Banks probably vet off day via back booboo claim

Mucky Tundra (25-Jul) : @AndyHermanNFL Jordy Nelson out at camp today. No word if he’s in play for one of the two open roster spots ; )

dfosterf (25-Jul) : Is that better or worse than Banks bad back?

Zero2Cool (25-Jul) : Savion concussion ... not good.

packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Aaron Rodgers’s first pass of first team period was picked off

Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : tbh I didn't hear of his passing

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Cosby Show. Malcom Jamal Warner I think is real name

Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : I was thinking of Ozzy and Hulk

Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Who's Theo?

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : How is Theo alliteration?

Mucky Tundra (24-Jul) : Bad week for people whose names are alliterations

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hulk Hogan gone too.

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Oh, it's toe injury

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Hope it's not serious. that would stink

dfosterf (24-Jul) : Sounds like an ankle not a knee for Fields

dfosterf (24-Jul) : Ya Flaccp on Browns

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Maybe Tyrod Taylor instead

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : He's on Browns, right?

dfosterf (24-Jul) : They would probably go with Flacco is my guess if Fields out

dfosterf (24-Jul) : Fleece 'em again!

Zero2Cool (24-Jul) : Malik Willis might be someone Jets come after

packerfanoutwest (24-Jul) : Packers introduce 1923-inspired classic uniform, leather-look helmet

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Both LB Quay Walker and Rookie DB Micah Robinson have passed their physicals

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Happy to see site feels more snappy snappy

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : No sir. I did not.

dfosterf (23-Jul) : You didn't get free childcare when you were at work?

wpr (23-Jul) : These guys make hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. Pay for their own childcare.

dfosterf (23-Jul) : 2nd issue. Number 1 issue was no gameday childcare. 1 of 3 teams not providing it

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Suppose if locker room is main issue, we sitting pretty

wpr (23-Jul) : I thought so Mucky. In those useless player polls GB always rates high overall. Locker is a part of it.

Mucky Tundra (23-Jul) : Wasn't the locker room just updated like 6 or 7 years ago?

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : I have forum updated on different site. We'll see how this one goes before going to that

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : Elgton Jenkins has a back injury, is expect to end contract dispute

wpr (23-Jul) : It's funny the PA complained about the locker room. It wasn't that long ago it was top shelf. Things change in a hurry.

wpr (23-Jul) : The site is much more better.

Zero2Cool (23-Jul) : NFLPA report said Packers lockerroom needed upgrade. Whining bout where you change?

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2025 Packers Schedule

Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM

COMMANDERS

Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM

Browns

Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM

Cowboys

Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM

BENGALS

Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM

Cardinals

Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM

Steelers

Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM

PANTHERS

Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM

EAGLES

Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM

Giants

Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM

Lions

Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM

Broncos

Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM

Bears

Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM

RAVENS

Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM

Vikings