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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I was going to write this guy off in the draft bust category to sit alongside Justin Harrell but you give me pause. Thank you for the dose of optimism.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



If a player after three (Kevin is in his 3rd now) seasons doesn't produce, I think it's time to move on.


I'm not sure I like the "bust" label because quite frankly, I don't know what it means.

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play2win
5 years ago

P2W, Great Post....but just understand, WE ALL WANT THIS KID TO SUCCEED.

We know he has heart.

Its just frustrating both for us, and more so for him, that with all the potential, he just gets hurt a lot.

Originally Posted by: KRK 



I shouldn't have said "ignorant." My bad. Really. My apologies.

I have been frustrated too, but it sounds like King is even more so, according to Pettine. I completely get it, but think it is a bit early to be writing him off, as he had significant injuries to overcome in both of his seasons in GB. This year he wants to show well, and I'm hoping he does like all of my other friends here.

His history at UW shows he plays through pain. A lot of times, it isn't even the player's call as to whether they can play, but rather the training & medical staff. What is the guy going to do? Labrum tear with surgery prior to being drafted, another labrum tear in opposite shoulder as a rookie, played through it as long as he could then surgery. Year two he suffers the groin and hammy.

He grew up.

Having admitted late last year — as he finished the season on injured reserve again — that he needed to do just that and be more of a professional, the Green Bay Packers third-year cornerback took a new approach with his time off this time.

Instead of jet-setting around the world with his buddies at a moment’s notice, he hunkered down in his native Bay Area in California, focused on workouts instead of fun and set his mind to becoming the player the Packers expected him to be when they took him at the top of the second round (No. 33 overall) in the 2017 NFL Draft.

“Maturity,” said the 24-year-old King, who isn’t married, doesn’t have children and is in the third year of a four-year, $7.08 million contract. “When you come into the league, you have a childish mindset. You’re coming from college, where everything is so structured. You do this, this, this, basically 50 weeks out of the year. You’ve got no money.

“Then you come to the NFL, you’re a high draft pick, you give a guy X amount of money, you give a guy months off, and it’s easy to get lost in the sauce on things. Because there’s nobody telling you what to do. But then, you’ve got to figure it out. And it comes with time, with trial and error. You need to rest. You need to enjoy yourself. You need to have fun. You need to unplug. Those are things you absolutely should be doing.

“But how much of that do you do? You have to have that balance — and growth. You have to learn what works for you.”

What worked for King was more structure, less silliness. He didn’t adopt a monastic approach to the offseason, but he made sure he stayed home for most of his time off and cut back on one thing he loves: Traveling.

“I like being in a routine — getting up at the same time every day, doing this, doing that, and then have my time. Rather than flying here, flying there, trying to get your workout in. You’re all over the place,” King said. “Your sleep schedule might be off, you don’t eat at the same time. It’s not like the work isn’t there, it’s just different. I just wanted to get my mind, my body in a routine so I could get those gains, that growth.

“Think about it: Having money, and not having a family, you can go anywhere, whenever. Right? And when you have free time, it’s no big deal. Your friends are like, ‘Hey, let’s go to … Vegas!’ And you’re like, ‘All right. Let’s go.’ But now, it’s, ‘Nah, man, I’ve got this workout scheduled. Maybe another time.’ It’s OK to do that, but not all the time.”

And for King, there was no time like the present — and early returns on his more mature approach have been positive so far in camp. Playing alongside some big-time trash-talkers in Jaire Alexander, Tony Brown and others at the cornerback position, King’s more measured approach has gotten the attention of quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who was surprised to learn Thursday that King is only entering his third season.

“Kevin’s a little older. (He’s) been around a little bit; I know he’s missed some time. Is it only his third year? Oh, wow. He seems a lot older,” Rodgers said.


https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/healthier-and-more-mature-packers-cornerback-kevin-king-ready-to/article_752a4f10-e166-51f4-ad23-ac7518e3dfd2.html 

Kevin King sounds like he's really got his head on straight, and I'm really pulling for him to have a great year this season, and many more in GB.
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5 years ago

I shouldn't have said "ignorant." My bad. Really. My apologies.

I have been frustrated too, but it sounds like King is even more so, according to Pettine. I completely get it, but think it is a bit early to be writing him off, as he had significant injuries to overcome in both of his seasons in GB. This year he wants to show well, and I'm hoping he does like all of my other friends here.

His history at UW shows he plays through pain. A lot of times, it isn't even the player's call as to whether they can play, but rather the training & medical staff. What is the guy going to do? Labrum tear with surgery prior to being drafted, another labrum tear in opposite shoulder as a rookie, played through it as long as he could then surgery. Year two he suffers the groin and hammy.


https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football/professional/healthier-and-more-mature-packers-cornerback-kevin-king-ready-to/article_752a4f10-e166-51f4-ad23-ac7518e3dfd2.html 

Kevin King sounds like he's really got his head on straight, and I'm really pulling for him to have a great year this season, and many more in GB.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I wish teams could be more hands-on with young players and provide them with more structure. It's a double edged sword but to simply toss a 20-22 yo a bunch of cash and tell him he's a professional doesn't work for everyone.

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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I wish teams could be more hands-on with young players and provide them with more structure. It's a double edged sword but to simply toss a 20-22 yo a bunch of cash and tell him he's a professional doesn't work for everyone.

Originally Posted by: wpr 




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Cheesey
5 years ago




I'm not sure I like the "bust" label because quite frankly, I don't know what it means.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well, a “bust” is what is between the neck and the waist.....YOU should know that!!!.😂
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KRK
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5 years ago
I am old and stupid...can someone please explain the Vanilla Ice video
In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Zero2Cool
5 years ago

I am old and stupid...can someone please explain the Vanilla Ice video

Originally Posted by: KRK 



Someone said "yo" ... my go to for that is "yo vanilla!" 🤷
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KRK
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5 years ago

In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Cheesey
5 years ago

I am old and stupid...can someone please explain the Vanilla Ice video

Originally Posted by: KRK 



KRK, you are NOT stupid!!!!

Old, maybe.......😂
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PackerTraxx
5 years ago
Some players can't stay on the field because of one serious injury and/or condition. Such as Tim Lewis, Sterling Sharp, and Nick Collins. Some it happens because of multiple lesser injuries, like King. They are all frustrating, especially with HOF caliber players, which I believe all the above are. With multiple injuries it is more frustrating because it happens over time rather than an incident and it's over. We're forced to accept it. If we're lucky he may "grow out" of the problems and stay health, however unlikely. It has happened. It would be great to see. I feel he can be an outstanding player. All we can do is hope for the best.
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