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macbob
5 years ago
Dan Devine really hosed Starr in 1974 by trading 1st, 2nd, & 3rd round picks in 75 and 1st & 2nd in 76 for 34 year old John Hadl (and then leaving for Notre Dame at the end of 74). Both years our draft position ended up in the top 10.

DD traded for Hadl 10 days after he threw 6-16 for 59 yds and 2 interceptions in a loss to the Packers and was beaten out of the Rams startiing QB by James Harris.

Hadl's record as a Packer: 7 wins -15 losses; with 9 TDs and 29 Ints (amazing they won that many games with QB stats like that).

It wasn't all Hadl's fault--the OL was porous and Hadl wasn't exactly the most mobile QB.

Packers traded him at the end of 75 and he finished out his career as the Oilers backup QB.

The Rams in the meantime turned the 5 draft picks into a 64-25-1 record over the next six years.

It amused me that the Vikings did the same thing when they traded Hershel Walker in 89. Amused me less when the Cowboys kept knocking us out of the playoffs in the early 90s...

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nerdmann
5 years ago
Bart held the door for my dad at an insurance sales meeting back in the 80s. My dad remarked about what a great guy Bart was. Didn't have to do that. Went out of his way for my dad, who wasn't even the boss man at that job.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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5 years ago
A couple of more stories from ESPN.
Bart Starr was 'the boss,' but he was 'such a gentleman' 

"Dan (Devine) was the one who hired me so when Dan left, I thought I might have trouble," Harlan said. "And the day Bart was hired [in 1975], he called me at home and said, 'I want you to help me and take over doing all the contracts.'

Remembering Bart Starr

The legendary Packers quarterback, son of a tough-love World War II veteran, was the player who made Vince Lombardi's dynasty possible. Ian O'Connor »

"I said, 'Bart, it's going to be an honor to work for you.' He said, 'You won't work for me, you'll work with me.' And that was just the way he handled things. He was the boss, but yet he was such a gentleman."



Bart Starr was somehow vastly underrated in his era
 


He never passed for 2,500 yards in a season, never threw more than 16 touchdowns in a season. He averaged 19.5 pass attempts per game in his 14 years as a starter. But as a starter, Starr won five NFL titles -- as many as Unitas, Brett Favre, Joe Namath, Steve Young and Dan Marino combined.

And Starr is the only quarterback in pro football history to win three titles in a row. He lost just one of 10 playoff starts -- the first one, in 1960, when the Philadelphia Eagles beat the Packers in the title game at Franklin Field. Starr's .900 playoff winning percentage is the best in NFL history.

Unitas had a passer rating of 68.9 in his postseason career. Starr's career postseason passer rating was a gaudy 104.8, the highest in NFL history, safely ahead of the No. 2, Kurt Warner (102.8 career postseason rating).

Imagine this for mind-blowing accuracy and proficiency: In 10 postseason games, Starr threw the football 213 times -- and he had just three interceptions.



My Starr story is the same one shared by tens of thousands.

Every year the Packers bring out former players. One at a time. With each name the fans would cheer. Some would be louder and longer than for others but the fans appreciate all former players.

Always last was Bart. I am sure it wasn't vanity on his part. I can well imagine he didn't want the limelight. But he also realized if he came out sooner, other players would miss their ovations. If you never experienced it, imagine the roar of the crowd after the game winning touchdown in the final 10 seconds of a Super Bowl. It might not be quite that loud, but to me, it sure seemed like it was. People standing on their feet giving Bart such a cheer and it would go on for the longest time. I am so disappointed we will never do it again. Perhaps the Packers will put a video of him on the board for us.



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5 years ago
Our Football Team Just Go A lot Better

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In Luce tua Videmus Lucem KRK
Cheesey
5 years ago
I heard they are going to have some kind of remembrance for him in Green Bay, just don’t know when it will be yet.
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Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

In 10 postseason games, Starr threw the football 213 times -- and he had just three interceptions.

wpr wrote:


Not only was his postseason interception rate an unearthly low 1.4 percent, but he threw 15 touchdowns, posting an astronomical postseason touchdown percentage of 7.0.

By way of comparison, Tom Brady's postseason numbers are 2.1 percent and 4.6 percent, respectively.
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5 years ago



Favre told SiriusXM NFL Radio on Tuesday that, after every game, he’d receive a letter from Starr.

“I think the thing that kind of tells you a lot about what type of guy he is, there wasn’t a game that I didn’t get a letter from him, whether it be complimenting me on how I played or the fact that we won, or ‘keep your chin up, it will get better,'” Favre said. “I mean, you think about the games that I played, that’s a lot of games. To get a personal note from Bart each and every time, I’m not gonna lie, it made me feel pretty special.”

In 2016, Starr’s wife, Cherry, said that the two men had a memorable moment when Favre’s jersey was retired.

“He looked up at Brett, and Brett looked down at him, he looked up and he said, ‘I love you, Brett,'” Cherry Starr said, via the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s website. “And Brett looked down with tears in his eyes and said, ‘I love you too, Bart.’ It was the sweetest moment.”

Mike Florio  wrote:



I think a lot of Packers fans realized that Bart and Brett had a pretty good relationship. It's nice that Florio is letting everyone else know too.
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5 years ago
Here's a link to some more stories .

I like Troy Aikman's line.
Hall of Fame quarterback Troy Aikman on a surprise visit from Starr:

To this day, not sure how he even knew I was there.



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TheKanataThrilla (27-Dec) : That was terrible.
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beast (27-Dec) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (27-Dec) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
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Mucky Tundra (27-Dec) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
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