wpr
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5 years ago

Big additions are a theme here, as the Packers’ new safeties combine with young corners to give this group a very high ceiling. The safeties are almost all new. The cornerbacks are largely the same. But that combination of new arrivals and development of young players gives the Green Bay Packers ’ secondary a chance to be a very good unit in 2019, and some people around the NFL are beginning to take notice as OTAs are set to begin on Monday.
This week, Danny Kelly of The Ringer listed the seven most underrated position groups in the NFL , and the Packers’ secondary was one of the highlights of the list. In a sense, Kelly is looking at the potential ceiling for these units compared to their wider expectations and finds that this gap is massive for the Packers’ defensive backs: “Put together, Green Bay has amassed one of the most talented, versatile, and high-upside secondaries in the NFL.”
The projected safety duo of Adrian Amos  and first-round pick Darnell Savage, Jr. appears to be a perfect set of complements for each other on the back end. Although the initial analysis suggests that Amos  will be more of the in-the-box safety while Savage will play a center field role, that’s not how they must line up. Both players are capable of playing in any safety alignment, while Savage has plenty of slot corner experience as well. Ultimately, though, it is Amos’ ability to always reliably carry out his assignment that should allow Savage to roam more freely and hunt out big plays.
That versatility will be critical for the Packers on the back end this season. After all, Mike Pettine loves to disguise pressure on the quarterback as well as hide his coverage schemes, something that these players should help him do. As Kelly notes, this year’s group of safeties “should give (Pettine) the ability to deploy his safety group in any number of schemes or coverage looks—and should augment his ability to send blitzes from everywhere on the field.”
Then there’s the cornerback group. Admittedly, optimism among Packers fans about the position is centered around the development of young talent. Sure, Tramon Williams  is a steadying presence and will likely contribute in the slot a fair amount, but it is the top-end talent and swagger of Jaire Alexander  that will lead this group on the field. A full offseason of development on man coverage should help Josh Jackson  as well, and for Kevin King , it’s all about staying healthy rather than worrying about development. Kelly didn’t even get a chance to dig deeper into the depth chart either, where Tony Brown  projects as a physical, athletic number five cornerback and Ka’Dar Hollman brings exceptional speed and tenacity to the table.
Adding the Packers’ defensive backfield to a list of units that includes the 49ers ’ defensive line (with new additions Nick Bosa and Dee Ford ), the Colts ’ receivers (which added Parris Campbell and Devin Funchess ) and the Falcons ’ offensive line (first-round picks in Chris Lindstrom and Kaleb McGary) shows that big additions are a theme here. These groups all have received significant investments from their GMs this offseason, and are looking for big steps forward in 2019.
Here’s hoping that the Packers’ secondary stays healthy, because if they do — and if the revamped pass rush in front of them does as well — this defense could get very good very quickly.


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Continue Reading @ [url=https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2019/5/18/18630513/packers-young-secondary-is-among-the-most-underrated-units-in-the-nfl]Evan "Tex" Western 

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It should be an exciting year for the GB DBs. I am looking for the 2nd year players to take a step up.
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KRK
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5 years ago
The group should be aided by a vastly improved pass-rush and likely improved health of the defensive line.

For those of us clamoring to keep Pettine, he needs to coach em up....no excuses. My concerns:
[list][*]alot of new faces may take time to learn[*]still weak at ILB[*]We looked like crap agains any team that ran no-huddle last year...they need to be ready[/list]That notwithstanding, I am very excited about this defense.
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play2win
5 years ago
To me, the DBs here will be a strength of our team, in terms of a starting unit. Loaded with a great mix of size, speed, experience and instincts. It is a young group, and I wonder if anyone will push Williams for a position on this team? Seems he doesn't have the speed to keep up like he used to, but, would love for GB to offer him a coaching position if they deem necessary to keep younger and faster players. His experience is indeed valuable, and he could be an important part of a pick party with this new pass rush. I could easily see the group break down to some variation of these 10:

Alexander - Hollman - Brown
Savage - Hamilton
Amos - Greene
King - Jackson - Williams

Maybe Jackson and Hamilton flip positions, maybe Williams backs up Savage. This is going to be a serious camp battle for sure.
nerdmann
5 years ago
King needs to stay healthy.

Jackson needs to not grab WRs. He can be an Al Harris type, but he can't be drawing flags.

It will be interesting to see if we can stay healthier under the new regime. DB has been one area of constant attrition.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
gbguy20
5 years ago
The whole team has been in attrition for much of the last decade.
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sschind
5 years ago
In a sense I agree but as a whole I think they are still too unproven to be rated high enough to not be considered under rated. I do think people are over looking them and they will end up being much higher than people think but I completely understand why they are being over looked. IMO Amos is the only one of significance who has shown enough to be rated in the first place. Alexander looked great last year but he is only in his second year. I expect Savage to be...well I expect him to be savage but he is a rookie. King needs to stay healthy and Jackson needs consistency.

I really like this group and I expect great things from them but if you consider the youth and inexperience I really don't see how you could rate them very high unless you are going strictly on potential.
play2win
5 years ago
wpr, the pass rush we now have is really going to help this group go over the top. I'm right with you that this is going to be super special.
Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago
I think we should bring this young man in for a look:
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gbguy20
5 years ago
I thought they made plate collisions illegal now?
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Cheesey
5 years ago
They are illegal in the pros now.

Anyway, I think the point was that our defense needs to attack like that. Not like a bunch of pansies.
On paper our D looks better. But whether or not that plays out on the field, only time will tell.
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