Rockmolder
6 years ago

Williams is your utility guy. He can do it all, specializes in pass pro.

Jones is your lighting guy. He was used in the passing game in college, will be used that way much more in LeFluer's system than in Mike's.

Now we need that guy who can take a step and cut it up the middle. Preferably somebody with speed.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I don't know about Williams as your utility guy. He's slow and plodding, but doesn't have the strength to run over people. Even that shouldn't have to be that big a problem in a zone blocking scheme (Terrell Davis and Arian Foster didn't even crack 4.7 on their 40), since vision and the ability to cut up field and hit the hole are probably the biggest essentials, but he hasn't really impressed all that much in those areas, either.

Utility and versatility are terms I'm beginning to dread in scouting or player reports. Allen Barbre always comes to mind. Very versatile player, could play all 5 positions on the line at a consistent level. Shame that level was always horrible.

Jones I have very high hopes for. If he stays healthy, there's no reason for him to not go over 1.200 yards.

Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I don't know about Williams as your utility guy. He's slow and plodding, but doesn't have the strength to run over people. Even that shouldn't have to be that big a problem in a zone blocking scheme (Terrell Davis and Arian Foster didn't even crack 4.7 on their 40), since vision and the ability to cut up field and hit the hole are probably the biggest essentials, but he hasn't really impressed all that much in those areas, either.

Utility and versatility are terms I'm beginning to dread in scouting or player reports. Allen Barbre always comes to mind. Very versatile player, could play all 5 positions on the line at a consistent level. Shame that level was always horrible.

Jones I have very high hopes for. If he stays healthy, there's no reason for him to not go over 1.200 yards.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Crazy... I thought Jones was much faster than Williams.

Jamal Williams ran 40 in 4.59
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jamaal-williams?id=2558204 

Aaron Jones ran 40 in 4.56
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/aaron-jones?id=2558116 
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Rockmolder
6 years ago

Crazy... I thought Jones was much faster than Williams.

Jamal Williams ran 40 in 4.59
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/jamaal-williams?id=2558204 

Aaron Jones ran 40 in 4.56
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/aaron-jones?id=2558116 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I thought so, as well, at first. It's more in the quickness than top-end speed, though. Jones beats him big time in every measurable that implies burst, quickness etc. Combine site doesn't show the 10 yard split, but it was 1.51 for Adams, while Williams clocked in at 1.60.

Jamaal gets to top speed like a diesel truck. That doesn't really matter all that much if you have great vision like Foster and Davis or you're a real bruiser like Lacy was (when he was actually in shape), but Jamaal has some work to do one the first category and has shown us he doesn't really fit the second category.
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nerdmann
6 years ago

I don't know about Williams as your utility guy. He's slow and plodding, but doesn't have the strength to run over people. Even that shouldn't have to be that big a problem in a zone blocking scheme (Terrell Davis and Arian Foster didn't even crack 4.7 on their 40), since vision and the ability to cut up field and hit the hole are probably the biggest essentials, but he hasn't really impressed all that much in those areas, either.

Utility and versatility are terms I'm beginning to dread in scouting or player reports. Allen Barbre always comes to mind. Very versatile player, could play all 5 positions on the line at a consistent level. Shame that level was always horrible.

Jones I have very high hopes for. If he stays healthy, there's no reason for him to not go over 1.200 yards.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



I put William's up there with guys like Ryan Grant. Sees the hole better, not as much of a home run threat.

Dude can absolutely get it done, imo. He's just not on the level of Ahman Green or one of those types of guys.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
He does not see the hole better than Jones.
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buckeyepackfan
6 years ago

Kapri Bibbs 5'10" 203 lbs age:26 exp: 4 years

Tra Carson 5'11" 228 lbs age:26 exp: 3 years

Lavon Coleman 5'11" 216 lbs age:24 exp: 1 year

Malcolm Johnson 6'1" 231 lbs age:26 exp: 2 years

Aaron Jones 5'9" 208 lbs age:24 exp: 3 years

Jamaal Williams 6'0" 213 lbs age:23 exp: 3 years

I think Gutey is happy with the stable of rb's.

Both Jones and Williams have showed, when healthy they are a very capable duo.

Bibbs and Carson were brought in by Gutey.
He didn't sign them just to finish out last year.
The guy has a plan.
Thats not saying he won't draft another rb, but I don't think it is high on the list.

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Cheesey
6 years ago
I LOVE our combo of Jones and Williams. The big question is, can they remain healthy.
If our WRs can make the jump to make more plays, that will open up the running game a lot more.
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sschind
6 years ago

Give Jones the chance to be the guy you won't regret it.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



I'm fine with doing and you may very well be right (I hope so because I'll be keeping him in my fantasy league) but the injury bug does concern me a bit and if he goes down again I don't want to be stuck with Williams. As Nerd says he is a good utility back but I don't want him to be our #1 for a several game stretch.

sschind
6 years ago

I LOVE our combo of Jones and Williams. The big question is, can they remain healthy.
If our WRs can make the jump to make more plays, that will open up the running game a lot more.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I like the combo of Jones and Williams much more so because of Jones than Williams.

blueleopard
6 years ago
Bibbs is actually a solid back, and I'm wondering if he has anything to offer other than spelling Jones and Williams.
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