nerdmann
6 years ago
So the Rams represented the coaching tree we went with, the Shanahan Tree. LeFleur is a McShay guy. He came up under this group and shares much of their philosophy.

Meanwhile, on the other side is Josh McDaniel. The OTHER guy largely rumored to be of interest to the Packers. In fact, going in, he was a favorite for the position, whereas LeFleur was kind of an after thought.

If the Rams win, that MIGHT tend to indicate that Murphy and the boys made the right decision to go with LeFleur. If the Patriots win, that MIGHT be construed to suggest that the way the Patriots do their thing is the way to win championships.

It doesn't really mean much either way, but it's just a small sub plot, from a Packers standpoint.
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beast
6 years ago

If the Rams win, that MIGHT tend to indicate that Murphy and the boys made the right decision to go with LeFleur. If the Patriots win, that MIGHT be construed to suggest that the way the Patriots do their thing is the way to win championships.

It doesn't really mean much either way, but it's just a small sub plot, from a Packers standpoint.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Nope, the sub plot doesn't work... as it implies the Packers are the Rams, which means Rodgers is Goff as the Patriots stop the deep ball and running game and try to force Goff to beat them (while the Patriots took away Adams and Graham and tried to make the Packers running game beat them when they faced). Also the sub plot would imply that Belichick's coaches would be successful away from Belichick, which for the most part hasn't been true at all.

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DoddPower
6 years ago
Eh, your premise doesn't hold up, Nerd. The only thing we can really take from the Super Bowl in terms of Packers sub-plots is differences in offensive philosophies. Perhaps there can be some insight there, but even that's a stretch.

But with that, I still wish the Packers gave McDaniels a shot. I think he would have been as good as LaFleur, and at least in terms of Aaron Rodgers, even better. The Patriots have been almost masterful in the playoffs, yet again. It would have been fun to see McDaniels with Rodgers. Perhaps LaFleur surprises, and hopefully he runs a better overall team, but I don't think he will beat what a McDaniels and Rodgers offense would have done.
Smokey
6 years ago
Just getting to the SB is a major accomplishment for any team. The Shanahan/McVay Offensive philosophy has already proven itself. Weather the Rams win or not in SB LIII, GB will enter the 2019 Season with a fresh, new look offense. The GM and the HC will need to work together to hire players that work best with that new system. In addition, the Defense will HAVE TO get better again this year. I was pleased with the better defense play last season, but we all know that will need to improve even more to get GB back to another SB.

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6 years ago
IMO can be inaccurate to draw macro trends from micro events.

It might be argued that the lessons learned here are by who is participating vs. the outcome. Some of the conclusions which can be drawn:
[list][*]Coaching Matters - new ideas can be very powerful...and so can stability with a willingness to adapt. The best is both, a coaching staff that adapts, but keeps to sound fundamentals[/list][list][*]Having an attack that is balanced and flexible is key, i.e. the ability and willingness to run the ball ad nauseam if necessary is huge[/list][list][*]Having a solid offensive line enables the previous point[/list][list][*]the ability to win a game with your defense (or at least keep it close) when things aren't clicking on offense.[/list][list][*]If you dont make stupid plays (like on special teams), and take stupid penalties (both teams in the top 10 of least penalized), you generally can stay in games.[/list]
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Aaron Jones guaranteed GB a superbowl berth next season.
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