Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
I found the following chart in an article on NFL.com today, and I thought it was interesting. The Packers' receivers were solidly middle of the road last year in getting separation from defenders at the point of release (2.92 yards). I'm not sure what the significance of such an arcane statistic might be, but I thought it might provoke a lively discussion. I would be especially intrigued to see where Green Bay fared back during their explosive 2011 campaign. What can Green Bay do this year to improve these numbers and restore their downfield attack?

I also can't help but suspect that Hundley's inability to throw more than 10 yards downfield hampered the receivers' ability to spread the field. Knowing they didn't have to cover deep, defenders were able to hunker down on the receivers' routes and clog the passing lanes.

UserPostedImage

UserPostedImage
Cheesey
6 years ago
I’m sure Hundley’s inabilitiy to make the throws didn’t help.
Rodgers can thread the needle, where Hundley can’t.
That’s where the difference between a great QB and a so so QB shows the most.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
6 years ago
I think Davante Adams is the only WR I noticed that was getting decent separation from his coverage. Dude has a wicked off the line move. Cobb is really good if not pressed at the line at getting separation.
UserPostedImage
Rockmolder
6 years ago
Did the article say anything about the ridiculous number the Chiefs put up there? Is that just Tyreek Hill and Albert Hill running away from everyone, or did it say something about scheming?

NFL.com has an entire page dedicated to these kinds of stats. The one that surprised me most is that Randall Cobb is actually 3rd in the entire league in this statistic.  

The stats that did not surprise me at all are Hundley's. He's around the top 10 worst in just about every category, even leading in average completed air yards... All while having the 3rd most time to throw in the entire league. But that's something for a different topic.
Cheesey
6 years ago
Having a QB that can throw a guy open makes a huge difference. After Rodgers, we don't have that.
Guys get open for a second, and our backup throws the ball too late.
UserPostedImage
Smokey
6 years ago


I also can't help but suspect that Hundley's inability to throw more than 10 yards downfield hampered the receivers' ability to spread the field. Knowing they didn't have to cover deep, defenders were able to hunker down on the receivers' routes and clog the passing lanes.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Yes, I would agree with your assessment. Furthermore, Rodgers' return may not be a total cure for this very real problem. Allow me to break this down.

Nelson is a fine WR with very good hands, but even though he is a master at running routes, he has slowed down over the last few seasons. As mush as I like him, reality can not be evaded.

Cobb has stepped up his game, even with Hundley at QB. IMO, at this point he is GB's #1 WR. Both he and Nelson will need to get their timing back with Rodgers, but that will (I believe) happen.

Adams needs to be traded and replaced with TY Montgomery in the Slot Receiver position. He would be a true threat in the middle of the field and for screen plays too. He would be great at WR as A.Jones and J.Williams can serve well together as RBs.

The TE position is, IMO, going to be filled by someone that will surprise some and others will say,"of course". I don't see him being a rookie from the draft. I have my secret choice and choose not to reveal it at this time, but...

Once everyone gets back to training camp, timing will improve with each practice.

Allison and Davis should compete for the 4th WR slot. My money is on Allison. [thumbup]

GB could and I believe will have one of the NFL's most dangerous offenses in 2018. I did not yet mention GB's Offensive Line as I don't see any reason to jinx a top group of men.

[cheers]




UserPostedImage
gbguy20
6 years ago
I like that you mention 2011. Joe Phil in was with us then and our passing game was unstoppable. Maybe it was our great receivers at the time, or maybe it was our great scheme. I can't wait to see slants and YAC again!
BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.
gbguy20
6 years ago
Phil in stupid phone..... PHILBIN. Fucking phone won't let me type that apparently
BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.
Cheesey
6 years ago
Smokey....trade Adams??? He’s the best WR we have! Cobb is ok, but no where as good as Adams has been.
I don’t know if you really mean what you type, or are just trying to stir things up.
If you watched the Packers last season, you would have seen that Adams did the most for the team.
UserPostedImage
Smokey
6 years ago

Smokey....trade Adams??? He’s the best WR we have! Cobb is ok, but no where as good as Adams has been.
I don’t know if you really mean what you type, or are just trying to stir things up.
If you watched the Packers last season, you would have seen that Adams did the most for the team.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



Thank you Cheesey, I had Adams and Cobb reversed. I'm not sure, but I may have been distracted when I made the error.

Keep Adams, trade Cobb.

UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (4h) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
Zero2Cool (5h) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
beast (19h) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
beast (19h) : I wonder why the Jets always hire defensive coaches to be head coach
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Still HC positions available out there. I wonder if Hafley pops up for one
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Trent Baalke is out as the Jaguars GM.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Jeff Hafley would have been a better choice, fortunately they don't know that. Someone will figure that out next off season
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Aaron Glenn Planning To Take Jets HC Job
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Martha- C'est mon boulot! 😁
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you
wpr (22-Jan) : Z, glad you are feeling better.
wpr (22-Jan) : My son and D-I-L work for UM. It's a way to pick on them.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you. I rarely get sick, and even more rarely sick to the point I can't work.
wpr (22-Jan) : Beast- back to yesterday, I CAN say OSU your have been Michigan IF the odds of making the playoffs were more urgent.
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : I've been near death ill last several days, finally feel less dead and site issues.
Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : It is a big deal. This host is having issues. It's frustrating.
Martha Careful (22-Jan) : just kidding...it was down
Martha Careful (22-Jan) : you were blocked yesterday, due to a a recalcitrant demeanor yesterday in the penalty box for a recalcitrant demeanor
dfosterf (22-Jan) : Was that site shutdown on your end or mine? No big deal, just curious
beast (21-Jan) : That way teams like Indiana and SMU don't make the conference championships by simply avoiding all the other good teams in their own confere
beast (21-Jan) : Also, with these "Super Conferences" instead of a single conference champion, have 4 teams make a Conference playoffs.
beast (21-Jan) : Also in college football, is a bye week a good or bad thing?
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : The tournament format was fine. Seeding could use some work.
beast (21-Jan) : You can't assume Ohio State would of won the Michigan game...
beast (21-Jan) : Rankings were 1) Oregon 2) Georgia 3) Texas 4) Penn State 5) Notre Dame 6) Ohio State, none of the rest mattered
wpr (21-Jan) : Texas, ND and OSU would have been fighting for the final 2 slots.
wpr (21-Jan) : Oregon and Georgia were locks. Without the luxury of extra playoff berths, Ohios St would have been more focused on Michigan game.
wpr (21-Jan) : Zero, no. If there were only 4 teams Ohio State would have been one of them. Boise St and ASU would not have been selected.
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : So that was 7 vs 8, that means in BCS they never would made it?
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : A great game. Give ND credit for coming back, although I am please with the outcome.
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : FG to make it academic
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : and there's the dagger
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooo 8 point game with 4 minutes to go!
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooooooohhhhhh he missed!
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Ooooo that completion makes things VERY interesting
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Game not over yet
beast (21-Jan) : Oh yeah, Georgia starting quarterback season ending elbow injury
beast (21-Jan) : Sadly something happened to Georgia... they should be playing in this game against Ohio State
beast (21-Jan) : I thought Ohio State and Texas were both better than Notre Dame & Penn State
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame getting rolled
Martha Careful (21-Jan) : Ohio State just got punched in the gut. Lets see how they respond
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame vs the Luckeyes, bleh
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Oh snap!!!
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : Even Stevie Wonder can see that.
Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : Nah, you see Lions OC leaving to be HC of Bears is directly related to Packers.
Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ohhhhhhh Zero is in TROUBLE
packerfanoutwest (21-Jan) : Zero, per your orders, check Bearshome, not packershome
Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Then he'll land with another team and flourish.
Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Ben going to Bears. He'll be out in 3 years.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
22-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

22-Jan / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.