Poll Question: How do you feel about "Field Turf" replacing grass at Lambeau?

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uffda udfa
7 years ago

It's a hybrid turf. When it was grass only the field was a mud puddle down the center by the end of Nov. Remember the NFL having them spray paint the dirt green so it looked like grass on tv? That was the playoff game against SF. Was it 92 or 93?

Originally Posted by: wpr 



The playoff game vs. Niners on our run to the SB in '95 was a pasture. I remember I kept yelling, "He's a mudder!" in reference to Edgar Bennett.

Curious exactly how our field is put together. Sounds like a Hair Club for Men kind of a thing. I wonder what percentage is synthetic fiber?



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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
For the curious minds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNiArKmJ10 
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

For the curious minds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VNiArKmJ10 

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Thanks for this. I loved the creates a natural surface part. Yeah, that's real natural. :)

Looks to be a way to kind of fool yourself that you still have a natural grass field that isn't synthetic but in essence is synthetic. If they're going to do this they may as well go all the way.



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nerdmann
7 years ago

Which would seem to hinder the Packers and other teams equally unless other teams are doing something with their cleats or technique differently - in which case the Packers should be making similar adjustments.

I haven't noticed this but to be fair, I haven't been looking out for it and easily could have missed it as my primary focus is usually the QB, OL, and pass rush. I will be on Monday though - Is it mostly WRs or DBs or both?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Both, and it's been happening for years. Yeah, both teams play on it, but the Packers play 8 games on it, and the number of pulled hamstrings is freakin ridiculous.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

Both, and it's been happening for years. Yeah, both teams play on it, but the Packers play 8 games on it, and the number of pulled hamstrings is freakin ridiculous.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



How many of the hamstring injuries happen on gameday in GB compared to other stadiums and playing surfaces. Also how many of the injuries happened on the practice field which isn't natural?
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

How many of the hamstring injuries happen on gameday in GB compared to other stadiums and playing surfaces. Also how many of the injuries happened on the practice field which isn't natural?

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Ask for citations any time nerd makes a generalized statement. The overwhelming majority of them have no factual basis. Not trying to cause dissension but it's really ridiculous how many made up things are being passed off as fact that are figments of his imagination.


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yooperfan
7 years ago

Ask for citations any time nerd makes a generalized statement. The overwhelming majority of them have no factual basis. Not trying to cause dissension but it's really ridiculous how many made up things are being passed off as fact that are figments of his imagination.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


I think that it is a perfectly reasonable question.
What is your problem with that post?
Speaking of generalized bullshit.

uffda udfa
7 years ago

I think that it is a perfectly reasonable question.
What is your problem with that post?
Speaking of generalized bullshit.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



????

Question asked by PFWT was good. No problem whatsoever with the question.

I was commenting on the statement(s) made by nerd that caused him to ask it in the first place. Nerd has a habit of just posting nonsense that has no basis in any reality so there is no citation for it. I was pointing out that when he does these things to ask for a citation so maybe it would curtail a bunch of really bad information making it on to the forums.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
https://www.si.com/nfl/2015/10/01/nfl-stadium-turf-grass-rankings 

The above article is from 2015 after we'd made switch to hybrid surface. Nerd said we used to have the best surface but no more and that guys are always slipping and there's a lot of hamstrings being pulled due to it.

Lambeau Field was the 9th rated playing surface in 2015. Not a single mention of slippage being a problem or hamstring injuries. If there was a big issue with either at the very least the surface would be much lower in the field surface rankings.


9. Green Bay Packers: Lambeau Field, Green Bay, Wis.

Now the only stadium in the league to use the Desso GrassMaster system (which Denver gave up in their field renovation this year) that weaves artificial turf into a predominantly natural-grass surface, this hybrid has proven to work in Green Bay, giving the cold-weather climate an added boost and strength during the winter. The Packers are also the first team to install a heating system under the field (it's been upgraded since the original installment), which keeps the field from ever really turning into the Frozen Tundra.

----Further, back in 2011, field surfaces were ranked. We were not the top grass field.

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/09000d5d81e1a8d0/article/player-survey-reveals-arizona-indy-have-best-fields-in-nfl 


Finally, back in 2010/11, the NFLPA did a survey on best playing surfaces. For grass fields, Lambeau finished 5th.

http://sturf.lib.msu.edu/article/2011apr28.pdf 

Again, nerd just throws really bad info out there as if it was factual. It never is.
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yooperfan
7 years ago

????

Question asked by PFWT was good. No problem whatsoever with the question.

I was commenting on the statement(s) made by nerd that caused him to ask it in the first place. Nerd has a habit of just posting nonsense that has no basis in any reality so there is no citation for it. I was pointing out that when he does these things to ask for a citation so maybe it would curtail a bunch of really bad information making it on to the forums.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Oops, missed something there, sorry about that!

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