Barfarn
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7 years ago
Huge Win. The two waited games GB plays as a penalty for finishing 1st in division last year are the games against Seattle and Dallas. We won both. Now, no division foe can gain advantage because of their easier schedule.

Ted took some shots for not drafting Cook; but why would a team draft Cook in #1 when you can get Aaron Jones at #6 [or Devonte Freeman, Jordan Howard, Kareem Hunt, Rawls, Carson Cohen, David Johnson, Crowell, Foster, well after 1st Rnd]. GB hasn’t had a back like this since Ahman and before that Eddie Lee Ivory. Cant wait to see both Monty and Jones in backfield.

Jones is right now is a 3 down back:

3Q 1:11, “chipped” Lawrence, hit him square in the number sand stopped him dead in his tracks. 4Q 1:13 Byron Jones lines up on end of line outside Taylor as if to blitz, he does and A. Jones picks him up and controls him perfectly. 4Q :47 Dallas lines up exactly the same way as play before except B. Jones is outside Bulaga. Marinelli is set on getting the rookie RB; he expects A. Jones to be predisposed to pick=up B. Jones just like last play. And B.Jones blitzs, but this time so does Hitchens thru B gap. Evans has the DT, Bulaga has Lawrence, so its 3 on 2, Bulaga and Jones against Jones, Lawrence and Hitchens. Jones’ job is to get the guy with quickest path Rodgers. He not only picks up Hitchens, he pushes him into Lawrence, which allows Bulaga to slide off Lawrence and get a shoulder on Byron Jones. There was another play where Dallas blitzed up middle and Jones just stonewalled Hitchens, but couldn’t find it. The kid can play in passing game. He ran a couple of nice arrow routes and circle routes coming out of the backfield and I’m sure ya’ll remember his diving catch. I’ll take this kid straight up over Davin Cook before his ACL injury!

On 4th down run by Jones on a toss, Jordy [Love that guy] got seal block on DE to spring Taylor and Adams drove his CB back 5 yards.

Rodgers is finally there. Years ago, I salivated watching young Favre thinking about how good he’d be when he grew up; but Favre never got there. Then came Rodgers, who was head and shoulders better than Favre ever was by his 2nd year starting. There was just one thing missing: he became an average QB in crunch time. I think he has turned the corner in his regard. He was great in Cincy game late; and was awesome in 3rd Q in this game. Then, he did his typical reverting back to average decision making on 3rd down in 4th Q lob pass to Jordy. He had better options to Adams and Kendrick in middle and they cleared out for Jones circling out of backfield from right to left and who was WIDE OPEN. Actually, Jones could have gone a long way[They have got to get the ball to him in space]. But Rodgers IMO, sat on sideline realizing he screwed up and he endeavored to not do it again when he got the ball back, and he was perfect after that in his decision making.

Bulaga played one of his better games. He was not very good v. Cincy and didn't finish. Lawrence has been unstoppable and outside of a few chips from Jones; he got no help. He did give up a pressure to Demontre Moore.

McCarthy. Loved the aggression on 4th down; the O game plans are unmatched, he’s simply brilliant. But that 2 point conversion was ill-advised. The only thing that made in not idiotic was he might have not considered the extra point to be automatic. If making the xpoint becomes a 50-50 thing, then heck ya mind as well go for 2 all the time.

Randall. Glad to see he’s grown up, that taunting penalty relay showed that –IDIOT! But he played very well today. The guy has the skills and though he’s not the most intelligent guy [Remember Favre needed instructions in how to work a light switch too] his football acumen is solid. He just needs to keep his emotions in check. Really liked the way he handled himself in the interview with the biggest McGinn-clone-ass-clown in the world, Cohen. On the TD Randall gave up, Gunter would have knocked that ball down.

McCray with a few more starts will be a starting caliber G, he was just as good, maybe better than Taylor was in his first start at G!

Bennett, the guy blocked like an OT again. If his receiving stats were extrapolated at year's end, he'll have 64-624-0, which is a Packer record for TE receptions and #9 in TE yards in a season [Coffman 5 years more yards, Finley 2 years and Chmura 1]. No TDs yet, but he is contributing in Red zone. We have by far the #1 RZ scoring O and one of the failures was OT in Cincy when we didn’t even try. In Seattle he pushed Avril back 3 yards on Monty running TD, Rubbed Jordy’s guy for a TD in Cincy and today, he rubbed Allison’s CB then got double teamed, if Allison wasn’t de-uniformed that’s a TD too.

Vogel crunch time 4.9 seconds hang time 59 yards…a touch long, but damn near perfect!

Ulrick was up instead of Pankey, I guess he’s ahead of him now.
nerdmann
7 years ago
I look at Aaron Jones as more like Johnathan Franklin than Ahman Green.
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RainX
7 years ago
Jones is showing at worst he should be splitting an equal number of snaps when Montgomery comes back. It makes me wonder if he can be that rookie RB catalyst Starks was back in '10 to help solidify the running game some. When you have a QB like Aaron, even having a middle of the road running game only makes him more dangerous.

Smoke and mirrors aside, the team has been playing well enough to win games, but they could very easily be 2-3 right now had a couple bounces gone the other way. Beating Minnesota next week and getting into the bye week at 5-1 would be setting them up for a good chance at making a run at a top seed in the second half. I think we caught the AFC East in a down year because even their best teams in Baltimore and Pittsburgh have shown some flaws. We're gonna need those potential W's because the NFC could be a very top heavy conference this season.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Jones is showing at worst he should be splitting an equal number of snaps when Montgomery comes back. It makes me wonder if he can be that rookie RB catalyst Starks was back in '10 to help solidify the running game some. When you have a QB like Aaron, even having a middle of the road running game only makes him more dangerous.

Smoke and mirrors aside, the team has been playing well enough to win games, but they could very easily be 2-3 right now had a couple bounces gone the other way. Beating Minnesota next week and getting into the bye week at 5-1 would be setting them up for a good chance at making a run at a top seed in the second half. I think we caught the AFC East in a down year because even their best teams in Baltimore and Pittsburgh have shown some flaws. We're gonna need those potential W's because the NFC could be a very top heavy conference this season.

Originally Posted by: RainX 


I think they play Saints and the get the BYE. Maybe 6-1?

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Poppa San
7 years ago

Jones is showing at worst he should be splitting an equal number of snaps when Montgomery comes back. It makes me wonder if he can be that rookie RB catalyst Starks was back in '10 to help solidify the running game some. When you have a QB like Aaron, even having a middle of the road running game only makes him more dangerous.

Smoke and mirrors aside, the team has been playing well enough to win games, but they could very easily be 2-3 right now had a couple bounces gone the other way. Beating Minnesota next week and getting into the bye week at 5-1 would be setting them up for a good chance at making a run at a top seed in the second half. I think we caught the AFC East in a down year because even their best teams in Baltimore and Pittsburgh have shown some flaws. We're gonna need those potential W's because the NFC could be a very top heavy conference this season.

Originally Posted by: RainX 


The missed game before the bye was mentioned.  When did Baltimore and Pittsburgh get moved to the East.  Trying to get NE competition finally?


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Barfarn
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7 years ago

Jones is showing at worst he should be splitting an equal number of snaps when Montgomery comes back. It makes me wonder if he can be that rookie RB catalyst Starks was back in '10 to help solidify the running game some. When you have a QB like Aaron, even having a middle of the road running game only makes him more dangerous.

Smoke and mirrors aside, the team has been playing well enough to win games, but they could very easily be 2-3 right now had a couple bounces gone the other way. Beating Minnesota next week and getting into the bye week at 5-1 would be setting them up for a good chance at making a run at a top seed in the second half. I think we caught the AFC East in a down year because even their best teams in Baltimore and Pittsburgh have shown some flaws. We're gonna need those potential W's because the NFC could be a very top heavy conference this season.

Originally Posted by: RainX 



Jones is as good as any back leaking out as valve. Monty, whether coming out of backfield or splitting wide can integrate fully into the plays. He can interact with other receivers, make pre and post snap adjustments, etc. With Monty we can, EG, go 2 TE, 2 WR and do anything from power running to 5 wides. If D stays in nickel/dime, we run, if in base we pass, don’t let them substitute for down and distance, it’s unstoppable. But, Jones can take 6-12 runs from Monty saving Monty’s body over the course of the year.

Yea, we could be 2-3; but not the end of world considering we played 4 division champions [Cincy will win the AFC north]. But, even if 2-3, if we look at the indicators, we’re watching the embryo of a SB team.

The O starts slow and it started slow this year too. Rodgers is taking on Favre’s win or die attitude and he’s more accurate and infinitely smarter. Our concerns: RZ offense; Rodgers playing within the offense and playing great in crunch time; and OL depth; check-check-check. The new TEs are going to get more comfy on post snap reads and more lethal. 2nd year jumps by Patrick, Murphy, Allison and rookie contributions by Jones, Williams and McCray have secured the O’s depth.

The D played well yesterday. We got adequate pressure on Prescott with the dominance limited of our 2 best [Perry and Daniels]. Run D was solid, especially given the said limits. Elliot got 1/3 of his yards on back to back plays in 4th Q, he was under to under 3yards per for the rest. The back end held up pretty well. King was doing a great job until going out on 2nd drive. Even without King, coverage on the initial routes was pretty good, they got a ton of yards on scrambles.

Going forward the 2 FAs [Brooks and Dial] will get better and 2nd year players have collectively taken a huge jump [Brice, Evans, Clark, Martinez, Lowry, Hawkins, Fackrell]. Two guys jumps are meteoric: Nerd spoke of Clark and Martinez is paying really fast. These 2 guys have secured the quality of the 2 front levels. And the secondary is lagging; but its better than it was during the steak last year. We have gotten inconsistent; but dominant performances from 3 defensive rookies [King, Jones and Vogel]. Come playoff time the secondary can get to average or a little above; this is realistic, we are a SB team even if 2-3 right now. Just hope Burnett is okay, he's key.
nerdmann
7 years ago
Also remember, we've got Vince Biegel and Montravius Adams coming back too. Most of these Dlinemen can stuff the run, these two could really help out the pass rush. Of course, that remains to be seen.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
steveishere
7 years ago
If anyone gets a chance or remembers, focus on Kenny Clark for a few plays. He's not getting any fancy stats but he is destroying teams ability to run up the middle on us. That's 2 weeks in a row against good Cs too (Dallas probably the best C in the league). We made a good pick with that one.
DoddPower
7 years ago

If anyone gets a chance or remembers, focus on Kenny Clark for a few plays. He's not getting any fancy stats but he is destroying teams ability to run up the middle on us. That's 2 weeks in a row against good Cs too (Dallas probably the best C in the league). We made a good pick with that one.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Clark has been getting a ton of praise from some folks on Twitter. It seems like he is making plays consistently every week, even though almost none of them are noticed by most. I haven't focused on him that closely, but has he really been playing that well? It sounds like he is quickly becoming one of the Packers most consistent and dependable defensive players, not only defensive linemen.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Clark has been getting a ton of praise from some folks on Twitter. It seems like he is making plays consistently every week, even though almost none of them are noticed by most. I haven't focused on him that closely, but has he really been playing that well? It sounds like he is quickly becoming one of the Packers most consistent and dependable defensive players, not only defensive linemen.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 






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