Zero2Cool
7 years ago
So, early 2012 I did something to my knee that I felt a 'pop'. I felt a ting and just shook my leg and thought "that was weird". I kept walking and when I got to the stairs in the warehouse and couldn't put any weight on it. I figured like any other little deal it would go away. Weeks became Months and it wasn't going away.

I had a physical and the Dr made an appointment for a specialist, but he was really blowing it off like it was nothing so I cancelled the specialist appointment.

Over the next year my knee would feel better and then worse. I kept thinking I needed to workout harder, cycle more often.

I made another physical appointment and this new Dr made another specialist appointment. I seen the specialist who gave me a cortisone shot. My knee felt great! I could feel it getting stronger and stronger. After a period of time, that all stopped.

Over the last few months it's been causing a lot of pain. Mind you, I have been told I have a high threshold for pain tolerance and there were times just sitting still hurt like hell. I hopped on my bike to go to swim class and my tendon felt like it was going to snap it was so tight.

So, last week I went and had another physical and was told my knee is structurally sound. He says I have patellar tendinitis. He suggest I get a 2nd opinion with a specialist, some Andy dude. Andy kind of blows me off and I get the impression I'm just being a pussy and need to walk it off. I told him the grinding is one thing I can live with, but having pain just sitting is something that I have to get better. Andy assures me I won't blow out my knee or cause any damage if I go back to working out and cycling. Whew!

I get scheduled to have an MRI and that was Wednesday. The results came back hours later and I get a call from this lady saying "Andy got your MRI results and you have knee cartilage damage. He wants you to see another Dr to discuss your options and to schedule surgery, which is likely going to be necessary."

Wait, what?

Andy, the who basically said I was fine last week is now saying I'm going to need surgery? That lady tells me I won't be able to drive or do anything for at least a week or really do anything.

That last part, that shook me up good. I've always been invincible. I would get my ass beat all the time on the football field, crashing on my bike, running routes into cars, running into houses, diving on concrete, all that typical boy stupid stuff and never once even had a broken bone.

Then there's the part where she says I won't be able to do anything and that hit even harder. I'm the one everyone counts on. I'm the one everyone relies on to bail them out and help out. I'm a single parent with two teenage daughters living with him, and relying heavily on him.

Keiana, my near 16 year old has been driving with me and I told her I would probably have to rely on her quite a bit to drive me around. She goes "Oh yeah. It'll be fine, I've got you 😊"

It took a few hours to realize how selfish I was being. Its minor, its a week. So many have to deal with so much worse for so much longer, like the rest of their life. I have to swallow some pride, ask for ... help and in a matter of weeks I will be better than ever.




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Smokey
7 years ago
About 4 years ago , I fell and cracked my L. Knee Cap. The area swelled as I contacted my Brother who rushed to my aid. The X-Ray showed the crack did not extend across the entire knee cap , but about half-way only. I was issued a leg brace and a set of crutches along with an appointment to see a specialist the next day.

The next day, my knee was drained of a lot of fluid and I was sent to heal up. Living alone with no one to assist me was most difficult. Following another draining 10 days later, of less severity this time , slowly I healed up. However it took nearly 2 years to recover to where I was before the accident . The injury to the knee cap healed up with no problem , but the trauma to the surrounding area , while not an original concern , took much longer to recover.

I've had other injuries throughout my life , but I can testify that the older you get , the slower you heal . For me it was never Pride , but Courage that saw me through . It's not easy to shower or perform other such simple task when your injured. You must face reality and allow yourself 2 to 3 times the normal time to accomplish the same task .

I'm not competing with Zero or trying to top him with my story . I simply want to show empathy with his injury. I hope his surgery/recovery goes well.

(Caution : Being laid up by injury or surgery makes you have to rest still as you heal. Be careful not to gain weight with snacks/treats . Stock up on fruits and veggie snacks . )

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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
Had my knee scoped for the second time last year about this time. Meniscus tear and cartridge damage. Listen to the doctors and do what they say for rehab.

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The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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7 years ago
Hey Kev, sorry you have a bum knee. The good news is you don't have to have it replaced. That would put you up for about 6 weeks. More good news is your daughters will be stronger as women by not needing to rely on you as much. It's nice that they are not in school right now. If you had this done in January it would have been a lot more difficult.

It's frustrating that health care providers can be so uneven in their diagnosis.

You workout so your recovery time won't be as long as someone who never does anything.

Hope your recovery is better than expected.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Doctor says I should have the surgery much earlier and that it needs to be fixed. I also apparently have something called Patella Alta which just means my kneecap isn't where its supposed to be. Surgery is scheduled for Tuesday. Should be a breeze. The recovery time isn't much. Kind of funny. When he told me yes, I had to have surgery to fix this, it hit kinda hard. It took the drive home before I realized, eh, this won't be a big deal. A few weeks and you'll be better than before.
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Cheesey
7 years ago
Kevin, I'm sure it will be fine. It's not a major surgery, but any surgery can be scary. The nice thing for you is that you are young and will most likely feel like "brand new" after it's fixed.
You are young, and getting it done now can make the rest of your life more enjoyable. Not getting it fixed would just make you suffer needlessly.
Just do what the doctor says, and don't over do it so it heals properly.
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Smokey
7 years ago
Zero , don't be afraid to question/speak-out if you feel you should. Infections following even minor procedures are not uncommon . My Sister-in-law's Father passed on due to complications following knee surgery . A former Brother-in -Law ignored a bad leg laceration he got while doing a roofing job and almost lost his leg.
Trust is fine, but knowing everything that the DR/Nurses will be doing is just not being stupid .

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Cheesey
7 years ago
That's true, Smokey.
Kevin. don't be afraid to ask questions. That way you know what to expect, and what to do.
And of course what to watch for as you are healing.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Problem here is I kinda am stupid. When it comes to pain, I push more and I'm kinda scared I might mess up. Thankfully I'm aware of my stupid so hopefully I just trust the physical therapy person.

I have no idea what to expect. That's sorta scary to think about so I'll ignore that lol. This is probable most minor surgery you could have so it shouldn't be tough.

Doctor did say if I feel pain, sit down, don't push. I just gotta remember that and be smart.
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Cheesey
7 years ago
That's just it......pain is your body's way of saying "HEY DUMMY! KNOCK IT OFF!!!"😂
So pay extra attention to what your body is trying to tell you.
You aren't "stupid". What you do most of us do. Push too hard sometimes.
Back in the 1990's I had arthroscopic surgery on my right shoulder. I did what the doctor said to do. He had me in a sling also.
Well, I believe it was a month after surgery that he had me come in for a check up. He had me take off the sling, and do all kinds of range of motion things. He was literally standing there with his mouth hanging open, and said "You shouldn't be able to do that!!!" I told him, "well, no one TOLD me I couldn't!" With that he took my sling and threw it in the trash! 😂
I probably was doing things I wasn't supposed to, but if it didn't hurt too much, I tried anyway. But I SHOULD have asked more questions of what to do or not do during that time.
I didn't hurt myself (thank god).
So ASK QUESTIONS!
My Dad used to say "The only dumb question, is not asking one if you don't know".
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dfosterf (16h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount
dfosterf (16h) : Trade, cut or keep
dfosterf (17h) : that from Jaire
dfosterf (17h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (17h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (17h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (17h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (17h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (17h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (17h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (17h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (18h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
Zero2Cool (18h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.
Zero2Cool (18h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.
Zero2Cool (18h) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.
dfosterf (20h) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"
dfosterf (20h) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that
dfosterf (20h) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?
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Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024
Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.
dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move
dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.
dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation
Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife
Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately
Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.
dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not
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Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?
Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?
Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb
wpr (9-Apr) : yay
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Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
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