MintBaconDrivel
8 years ago
How do you interpret this quote from the unnamed player?

“For me, after a loss, yelling is not going to do anything at that point, you know what I mean?” said one player. “That’s not the right time to do it. Of course everybody is pissed off that we just lost. If somebody is going to yell, it needs to be the coach. The coach needs to yell. Mike Daniels is going to do what he wants, though. It used to bother me but now I just close my ears to it.”

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steveishere
8 years ago
Does this team get any coaching at all?
sschind
8 years ago
Sometimes yelling is just yelling. Its not always a sign of leadership.

Take a tough loss for example. Two things players don't want to hear are "good game" and anything that is yelled at them. The first reaction is a defensive one "who are you to question my emotion" the second is something along the lines of "just shut the hell up"

Pretty much every player at that level is able to decide for themselves if they played their best or not. they don't respond to people yelling in the heat of the moment. After a few days when they have had a chance to reflect a bit maybe some yelling will get through but right after a game no one wants to hear it and it doesn't do much good IMO.

Whoever this unnamed player is I'd bet the majority of players feel just like he does.
nerdmann
8 years ago

Sometimes yelling is just yelling. Its not always a sign of leadership.

Take a tough loss for example. Two things players don't want to hear are "good game" and anything that is yelled at them. The first reaction is a defensive one "who are you to question my emotion" the second is something along the lines of "just shut the hell up"

Pretty much every player at that level is able to decide for themselves if they played their best or not. they don't respond to people yelling in the heat of the moment. After a few days when they have had a chance to reflect a bit maybe some yelling will get through but right after a game no one wants to hear it and it doesn't do much good IMO.

Whoever this unnamed player is I'd bet the majority of players feel just like he does.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Lombardi had the ability to press the players enotional buttons. He understood them, could get inside their heads to motivate them. He understood what they needed to hear and where they had to be, emotionally.

Mike has no concept of sports psychology, he's an Xs and Os guy.

That said, if Aaron was willing to hit the open guy, we'd probably be undefeated right now. Then again, dealing with a cancer like Aaron requires some comprehension of sports psychology, the lack of which is in large part what created this monster to begin with.
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beast
8 years ago

If they don't like Mike Daniels yelling, then do something about it... like win!

But really, a lot depends on what Daniels is yelling and how he's doing it. I had a "team captain", who was complete jack@ss at times, and when he personally struggled he took it out on others (even those that were being successful)... because he couldn't handle himself when things weren't going his way.

So if Daniels is just on the warpath randomly stirring up sh!t that's one thing... and if he's noticing real problems that an attitude adjustment or yelling might fix, then that's another.

Though, saving the yelling for the next time they meet MIGHT be more effective. MIGHT BE.

And Daniels could be letting his anger out on the wrong group... maybe they should unleash Daniels on the TEs/WR/QB group... as they didn't do shit most of the second half until the Colts scored and then some of the randomly came alive.
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steveishere
8 years ago

If they don't like Mike Daniels yelling, then do something about it... like win!

But really, a lot depends on what Daniels is yelling and how he's doing it. I had a "team captain", who was complete jack@ss at times, and when he personally struggled he took it out on others (even those that were being successful)... because he couldn't handle himself when things weren't going his way.

So if Daniels is just on the warpath randomly stirring up sh!t that's one thing... and if he's noticing real problems that an attitude adjustment or yelling might fix, then that's another.

Though, saving the yelling for the next time they meet MIGHT be more effective. MIGHT BE.

And Daniels could be letting his anger out on the wrong group... maybe they should unleash Daniels on the TEs/WR/QB group... as they didn't do shit most of the second half until the Colts scored and then some of the randomly came alive.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Timing matters. At halftime yeah whatever maybe you'll fire some people up but doing that stuff after the game there's no goal in mind you are just letting out frustrations.
beast
8 years ago

Timing matters. At halftime yeah whatever maybe you'll fire some people up but doing that stuff after the game there's no goal in mind you are just letting out frustrations.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



There can be a clear goal in mind... such as calling people out who didn't put in the work during the week.

If you know someone is slacking, you might give them a slight pass to see if they might be putting in some work that you're not seeing, when you're not around.... then come game time, then came out and suck during the game... it might be the perfect time to call someone out on their BS habit during the week.

Hopefully it sinks in out the day off (if there is a day off) and then they have a chip on their shoulder the next week to prove that they can pull their own weight.


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nerdmann
8 years ago

There can be a clear goal in mind... such as calling people out who didn't put in the work during the week.

If you know someone is slacking, you might give them a slight pass to see if they might be putting in some work that you're not seeing, when you're not around.... then come game time, then came out and suck during the game... it might be the perfect time to call someone out on their BS habit during the week.

Hopefully it sinks in out the day off (if there is a day off) and then they have a chip on their shoulder the next week to prove that they can pull their own weight.

Originally Posted by: beast 



Maybe he knows he's not allowed to call out the starting QB. Maybe the QB is super sensitive to criticism.
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steveishere
8 years ago

Maybe he knows he's not allowed to call out the starting QB. Maybe the QB is super sensitive to criticism.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



It's really not his place anyways he likely doesn't know jack about quarterbacking. We have a Head Coach who is a supposed QB guru who calls plays and whose offense the team is running, we have an assistant HC (offense) who used to be QB coach, we have an OC AND we have a QB coach. It really seems like between all of those guys there is not a single leader that can manage the personalities in the locker room or anyone with an idea how to prepare the players to run the offense.

All of these coaches an assistants focused on offense and the players in the locker room seem like they are basically BEGGING for leadership. This is what happens when all of your coaches treat coaching like it's all about watching video tapes and drawing lines on paper and not dealing with the human beings in the locker room who are the reason for those lines and videos. McCarthy must have thought he couldn't focus on actually coaching properly enough while running the offense and calling plays at the same time when he gave up playcalling initially (and there's merit to that) but he still took it back and the team has essentially been a mess ever since.
nerdmann
8 years ago

It's really not his place anyways he likely doesn't know jack about quarterbacking. We have a Head Coach who is a supposed QB guru who calls plays and whose offense the team is running, we have an assistant HC (offense) who used to be QB coach, we have an OC AND we have a QB coach. It really seems like between all of those guys there is not a single leader that can manage the personalities in the locker room or anyone with an idea how to prepare the players to run the offense.

All of these coaches an assistants focused on offense and the players in the locker room seem like they are basically BEGGING for leadership. This is what happens when all of your coaches treat coaching like it's all about watching video tapes and drawing lines on paper and not dealing with the human beings in the locker room who are the reason for those lines and videos. McCarthy must have thought he couldn't focus on actually coaching properly enough while running the offense and calling plays at the same time when he gave up playcalling initially (and there's merit to that) but he still took it back and the team has essentially been a mess ever since.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Every week, we win or lose depending upon whether or not our QB decides to show up.


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