Zero2Cool
8 years ago
I can't remember seeing Greg Jennings getting agitated.



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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
It's easy to get upset on that show. Those hosts just badger people no matter who's in the seat.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
steveishere
8 years ago
Greg is right here. If your WRs are prime Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Finley, Driver, Cobb and you take one of those guys out it's not going to do much. If your WRs are Prime Jordy, beat up Cobb, beat up Davante and Jarrett Boykin or something and you take away Jordy the QBs stats will suffer. If we lost Jordy last year but still had a prime Jennings all year I don't think it would have been nearly as bad as it was. That guys stats argument was pretty shallow.
shield4life
8 years ago
There are some aspects that I agree with Jennings and some I don't. For example, I agree that if your WR can't get open obviously the QB can't always save the day. One thing that Jennings and everyone else that hasn't realized yet needs to realize is that the offense has changed identity since the days of Jennings - Nelson - Cobb - Jones - Finley. Before we used to be a quick striking offense with short plays but effective ones. For example if everyone remembers the first 3 years of Rodgers ... ball snapped slant 10 yard throw to any WR ... YAC + 20 - 40. Opposing defense played more conservative and we use to beat them down deep. Now it's the opposite we try to beat them deep at the start of the game always look for the big play and then if nothing working after two quarters we go back to fundamentals. In exception of the last two games, these past 2 years have been the worst play calls, game preparation I've ever seen.

So do I agree that if WR got more open Rodgers would be better yes! Do I agree if Rodgers made Jennings better? Yes I do because obviously no other QB was able to make Jennings as good as his GB days!
Glad To Be A Packers Fan.
Cheesey
8 years ago
When Jennings was here we had a whole bunch of VERY good WR's.
And they ALL could get open, thus making the QB play much easier.
It seems now that we don't have ANYONE that can consistently get open, except maybe Davante Adams.
When every throw has to be almost perfect to get to our guys, the QB rating is going to go WAY down.
The best QB's make good WR's great. But they can't make below average WR's great.
The best arm in the world won't help if a guy can't get open enough to make a throw to him.
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mi_keys
8 years ago

That guys stats argument was pretty shallow.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



He was such a prick about it too. "As an analyst, I start with an hypothesis..."

Well, in your test of your hypothesis, did you control for other variables such as differences in strength of opposing defense, weather conditions or indoor vs. outdoor games, depth of the Packers offense, differences in scheme between Green Bay/Minnesota/Miami, etc? Were these differences statistically significant? After controlling for these variables, is your sample size large enough to have any meaning? Or, as an analyst, did you fail to do any more than the most cursory glance at high level numbers?



Greg did enough pissing and moaning to get his fair share of shit after his departure from Green Bay. But he had every reason to be frustrated with those two hacks.
Born and bred a cheesehead
8 years ago
I can see both sides off this story, but at the end of the day #12 made #85 a better receiver. what did those other 4 other qb's do while he was on their team? Now everyone is kinda talking about how the receivers can't get open, but at the same time time, how many times has Rodgers over thrown, under thrown, passes behind the receivers this season?
DakotaT
8 years ago
The only thing I'm wondering is if Jennings would have had hall of fame numbers playing out his career in Green Bay. Also, if my memory serves correctly, the Packers offered more money than Minnesota for Jennings. So did Greg need to hear Aaron come out and say we needed Jennings. If so, that's Diva material right there.
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

The only thing I'm wondering is if Jennings would have had hall of fame numbers playing out his career in Green Bay. Also, if my memory serves correctly, the Packers offered more money than Minnesota for Jennings. So did Greg need to hear Aaron come out and say we needed Jennings. If so, that's Diva material right there.

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I think Aaron Rodgers only publicly voiced the Packers should bring back one player and that was James Jones. I'm guessing since Jones got the QB's public support, he felt butthurt that he did not get the same treatment. However, Aaron said he shouldn't have done that and would try not to do it again in the future because he's the QB, not the GM.
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