About the Packers training staff· Page 2

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

True... but relevant facts are even more fascinating.

1) The injured reserve doesn't carry all the injured players... clearly TE Cook, RB Starks, CB Randall and many more have been injured for the Packers and have not had anything to do with the injured reserve list. But this method of counting injury doesn't count them.

2) This method also doesn't factor in the value or depth of the player(s). The Packers have had a number of starters injured... Shields, Randall, Cook, Matthews, Ryan, Martinez, Lang, Lacy and probably more... all starters... are the injures on other teams a lot of their starters?

Originally Posted by: beast

I guess you missed this so I'll repeat.

Too bad there aren't easy numbers to find about how many players missed games due to injury that were not placed on injured reserve.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

--- Generally speaking, aimed towards no one specifically ---

Do we think the Packers are the only team to have placed players on injured reserve and released them? No, other teams do it too. Enough with the damn excuses already. The training staff is NOT a problem. I swear some people don't even understand what a training staff does!

If we want to spew venom (and apparently that's the only way some people find any happiness) we should spew it at the STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING staff because that is where you can actively condition players to minimize the RISK (yes people RISK) of injury.

I understand this season sucks and the Packers are sucking, but stop being sensationalized clowns with our criticism. We are PACKERS FANS, not Bears fans, not Vikings fans. Let's act like it!

GO PACK GO!!

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#12

I guess you missed this so I'll repeat.

--- Generally speaking, aimed towards no one specifically ---

Do we think the Packers are the only team to have placed players on injured reserve and released them? No, other teams do it too. Enough with the damn excuses already. The training staff is NOT a problem. I swear some people don't even understand what a training staff does!

If we want to spew venom (and apparently that's the only way some people find any happiness) we should spew it at the STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING staff because that is where you can actively condition players to minimize the RISK (yes people RISK) of injury.

I understand this season sucks and the Packers are sucking, but stop being sensationalized clowns with our criticism. We are PACKERS FANS, not Bears fans, not Vikings fans. Let's act like it!

GO PACK GO!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Why do the players feel they have to go to local yoga studios outside the organization in order to prevent injury? Why does Eddie Lacy prefer working out with that informercial guy?

Fact is, this franchise has had these same problems for longer than the new practice limitations have been in effect.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Pay attention to other teams and athletes and you'll find out that this is far more common than you realize. Most athletes have their own professional trainer and regime they adhere to.

The CBA prohibits players from working with their teams during the OFF season, therefore, why not work out with a professional trainer?

Again, we're talking more of a strength and conditioning staff thing, NOT a training/medical staff thing. I think we're so upset over the utter disappointment of the Packers we are just blindly firing shots and throwing noodles on the wall hoping something sticks.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

8 years ago

#14

I would be curious to see a statistical analysis of injuries leaguewide. I'd bet dollars to donuts that Green Bay's injury rate isn't nearly as anomalous as fans think. We just notice Green Bay's injuries more because we focus more on this team.

Porforis
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

Very possible. Admittedly, from that narrow point of view it does seem that when we have notable injuries they tend to stack up at a single/a couple positions. For years it was the offensive line that was a turnstile, last year was WR and I believe LB (maybe it was the year before), this year is CB and RB (I count Montgomery as half a halfback. Quarterback?).

nerdmann
Premier Member

8 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

How many teams lost 4 of their top 5 CBs? To me, that's not normal.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

beast
Select Member

8 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

How many teams lost 4 of their top 5 CBs? To me, that's not normal.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I sorta agree with both of you. I think the Packers have gotten injured more than other teams, but I don't think it's as much of a huge difference as fans think it is. I mean, the Bears and Vikings have had quite a few injuries too.

But I don't think it's normal to have so many injuries at so few positions... like 4 of the top 5 CBs, or 2 of the 3 ILBers, all the true RBs on the rosters, etc. That does not seem normal. But it's not the only time it happens either... like last year the Packers had a lot of WRs injured... and I remember one year a team (I believe the Dolphins, but I'm not sure, it was a while ago), couldn't keep CBs healthy enough to get through the games.

mi_keys
Senior Member

8 years ago

#18

How many teams lost 4 of their top 5 CBs? To me, that's not normal.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Washington last year... well similar. 3 corners and 1 safety.

Justin Rogers (IR)
Chris Culliver (IR)
DeAngelo Hall
Duke Ihenacho (IR)

They converted Quinton Dunbar from wide receiver to cornerback just to get by. Their other starter was Will Blackmon.

They also had two games with their top four tight ends out (two on IR, Reed out for two games, Culliver out for three games overlapping with Reed).

My roommate is from DC so I have some vague awareness of their team. They finished the offseason banged up to the point they didn't think they had a corner or tight end left entering the season.

Born and bred a cheesehead

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

#19

Texans probably should fire their training staff, right?

and for a funny

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