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9 years ago

Negligible or not, in 2000 Al Gore won the popular vote but lost the election to George Bush.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That was the 4th Presidential election where that happened.
John Q Adams. 1824
Rutherford B Hayes 1876
Benjamin Harrison 1888
George Bush 2000
The first 3 were only 1 term Presidents.
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9 years ago

Very well could be missing something, but how would this be functionally different than a straight up popular vote, if the number of electoral votes are based on population? The difference should be negligible at best.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



The arguments are that popular vote would result in a candidate getting elected by only a few states that have the highest population density leaving the remaining state without any power in politics. Heck going after a handful of cities could win an election by popular vote. Electoral college is supposed to counter that and return some of that power to smaller states and less populated areas.

Problem is with All or None disbursement of electorals, parties give up states because they know they can't get any of the electorals from the state. Why would a republican spend money and campaign in CA today? Or a Democrat in Texas? It is pretty much known there are a handful of 50 or 6 states that will actually determine who wins and that is now where all the attention is paid. when I hear people from IL saying it doesn't matter who I vote for because the states is going to go to Hillary anyway there is a problem.

I believe by requiring all states to either allocate by district or proportionally it would force candidates to campaign in all states. And voters would feel their vote matters more because swinging a state even one or two electorals would have an impact on the final results.

I see it as a hybrid of straight popular and what we have today.
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9 years ago
I live in IL and no matter no matter who I vote for. Hillary will win by 5+ points.

Breaking the electoral vote down to the district level will probably help a little but it won't be significant. Major party candidates will still not go to small states like Utah and Wyoming. Even Iowa will probably see the VP candidates or the wives.

Here in IL Dems will hit Chicago but not Rockford or Peoria. (Second and third largest cities outside Metro Chicago.) The district that includes Rockford will go Republican so why would the Rep candidate feel the need to campaign in a place he/she is already going to win by 10 points?

I am in favor of some kind of change. In the end it will still come down to a few places being the swing votes and the contest will still be focused there.
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9 years ago

Even Iowa will probably see the VP candidates or the wives.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Seems fair that Hillary has a wife seeing as her husband has multiple girlfriends.
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