buckeyepackfan
9 years ago

Mike McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Clements and everyone else associated with the Green Bay Packers’ passing game through 14 games have failed. Ted Thompson and his personnel people have failed, too.

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yooperfan
9 years ago
"Smoke" and "Fire".
Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
I sure hope not!
steveishere
9 years ago
I bet Arians could find ways to make Abby and Janis work instead of just demanding they fit into an offense meant for jordy Nelson and instead rot on the bench even if the current starters are completely ineffective for weeks straight
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

I bet Arians could find ways to make Abby and Janis work instead of just demanding they fit into an offense meant for jordy Nelson and instead rot on the bench even if the current starters are completely ineffective for weeks straight

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Abberderris is being used and Jeff Janis has proven he cannot catch. Can Bruce Arians teach Janis how to catch? I think moving Edgar Bennett away from wide receivers was a mistake. That group did great under his watch with minimizing drops and ran better routes. Having a former quarterback teaching quarterbacks AND wide receivers I feel is spreading minimal knowledge too thin.
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steveishere
9 years ago

Abberderris is being used and Jeff Janis has proven he cannot catch. Can Bruce Arians teach Janis how to catch? I think moving Edgar Bennett away from wide receivers was a mistake. That group did great under his watch with minimizing drops and ran better routes. Having a former quarterback teaching quarterbacks AND wide receivers I feel is spreading minimal knowledge too thin.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



They have both continually gotten like 1-10 snaps a game even with Jones and Adams having horrible production as boundary WRs. Janis hasn't proven he can't catch he hasn't gotten an opportunity. The only one who has proven they can't catch in any actual games this year is Adams, yet he's still getting thrown out there 90% of the plays. Meanwhile Jones is good for about 1 nice play a game on 50-60 snaps. Even if Abby and Janis haven't proven themselves or "earned a shot" Adams and Jones hell even Cobb have all earned some more bench time.

This offense sucks every week, it has sucked all year yet we keep just seeing the same players being thrown out there in the same offense week after week. The only offense we've had since like week 3 is Lacy/Starks going off or the other team getting enough penalties to help us get near the end zone. We cannot pass the ball effectively with Jones/Adams/Cobb, that's been pretty well established this year. Gotta get some other guys in there.

Also not to get too far off track this team may be slow footed on offense but the secondary isn't slow at all and that's where the speed issue vs Arizona should come into play. Moreso with Shields out but Randall can run with fast guys and Rollins hasn't really been burned this year.
nerdmann
9 years ago
Sick of hearing this bullshit about how slow these guys are.

Cobb is FASTER than Nelson. The rest are right on par with him.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

They have both continually gotten like 1-10 snaps a game even with Jones and Adams having horrible production as boundary WRs. Janis hasn't proven he can't catch he hasn't gotten an opportunity. The only one who has proven they can't catch in any actual games this year is Adams, yet he's still getting thrown out there 90% of the plays. Meanwhile Jones is good for about 1 nice play a game on 50-60 snaps. Even if Abby and Janis haven't proven themselves or "earned a shot" Adams and Jones hell even Cobb have all earned some more bench time.

This offense sucks every week, it has sucked all year yet we keep just seeing the same players being thrown out there in the same offense week after week. The only offense we've had since like week 3 is Lacy/Starks going off or the other team getting enough penalties to help us get near the end zone. We cannot pass the ball effectively with Jones/Adams/Cobb, that's been pretty well established this year. Gotta get some other guys in there.

Also not to get too far off track this team may be slow footed on offense but the secondary isn't slow at all and that's where the speed issue vs Arizona should come into play. Moreso with Shields out but Randall can run with fast guys and Rollins hasn't really been burned this year.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



I would like Abberderris to take over the WR2 spot over Davante Adams and that is going to happen. Adams was not benched because he showed a lot last season and was deemed the MVP of the offseason. You don't just dump on a guy like that, that's bogus. You have to give him every opportunity to come through. I believe he's had that, and then some and now it's put up or shut up time. That's why I believe we will see more Abberderris than Adams.

Jeff Janis cannot catch while his legs are moving away from the quarterback, so it seems. If I were him, I'd be playing catch with a quarterback nonstop until I finally got the hang of it. Playing catch as in catching over my shoulder.

Abberderris was also hurt and that needs to be understood when blasting Packers for not giving him more snaps. The guy still has some hurting ribs so they have to be smart with him, which they are.



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DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Cardinals may be your super bowl winners everybody.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Watched several games Sunday and noticed that almost every team has a player on offense that is very fast and dangerous. The Packers I don't think have that on offense at RB or WR. Do they?
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Is the team drastically slower than when they won the SB? Or went to NFC Championship?

The primary problem is teams have figured out McCarty's offense and how to defend it, and McCarthy hasn't figured out how to change to fool the defenses. The offense has been hanging on for this season and last through broken plays not scheme. Watch game after game and you see the same thing from the offense. Sideline routes especially back shoulder. Routes that are 10+ yards deep, and TE releases to the sideline. The don't run quick hitters except for Bubble screens.

There is no excuse for 8 sacks. If your Oline is having trouble, you change play calling to help them. Atleast other teams do. McCarthy doesn't and has even said so at times simply expecting our players to beat the guy lined up across from them. When they are pass rushing that hard, you have to call plays with routes that develop in less time and we were not. McCarthy seems to have developed an allergy to slants the last few years. They are the best route when the pass rush is getting home as quick as it was. And it also makes the defense protect the middle of the field within 5 yards.
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Mucky Tundra (13h) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (13h) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (13h) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (13h) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (13h) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (13h) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (13h) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (14h) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (14h) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (14h) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (14h) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (14h) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (14h) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (14h) : Carter was 9th overall
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Mucky Tundra (14h) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (14h) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (14h) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (14h) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (14h) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (14h) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Mucky Tundra (14h) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire
Martha Careful (14h) : I cant help but feel good about how well the Packers D played in Philly during the playoffs
Mucky Tundra (14h) : this game is over
Mucky Tundra (14h) : This might be the kill shot here
Mucky Tundra (15h) : oh that's such a bad penalty for KC after getting the 3rd down stop
TheKanataThrilla (15h) : Philly DL has come to play
TheKanataThrilla (15h) : Ceoper DeJean with the INT scored...bad memories of draft night
Mucky Tundra (15h) : ok scratch that
Mucky Tundra (15h) : Game feels like last years Super Bowl: 49ers started off in control, moved the ball well but didn't have much of a lead to show for it
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