Smokey
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9 years ago
At this point, the Packers have lost their last 3 games and nearly lost as well to the Chargers. The Vikings have taken the lead in the NFC North Division. Injuries have hurt the team and Offensive production is down.

What do the Packers need to do to be a better team ? How can the Packers raise their overall level of play and get into the playoffs ? How do they elevate their performance in the passing, running, blocking, tackling, pass defense, and pass rush areas ?

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luigis
9 years ago
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2015-nfl-predictions/  we have 85% chance of making the playoffs.

Assuming we don't win the division the race for a wildcard spot seems to be favorable this year. Who is on track? Atlanta, Seattle and I think that's all!!! We have the tie-breaker against Seattle and Atlanta seems to be sliding, and they are Atlanta.

So honestly even if playing really bad I think we have very good chances to make the playoffs.

We also have very good chances of quickly getting torched in our first playoff game unless we learn how to defeat good teams on the road. Playing the same vanilla offense we've been playing so far is NOT going to do it without Jordy.

😢 unfortunately Mike McCarthy and Rodgers seem to be in denial about our problems and we might win enough games for them to keep their allucination. Then we lose at Carolina or Arizona by a huge margin and they say "we made the playoffs without Jordy, we are a great football team".

I feel a change is needed.
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nerdmann
9 years ago
This is absolutely nothing new for this team. They're always on the verge of imploding like this, it's just that they usually don't do so for this many consecutive quarters.

Much of it's on Aaron. He needs to pull his head out.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Anybody BONEHEAD STUPID enough to blame Aaron Rodgers for the Packer losses should find himself a new team to whine about. You like Cutler better? Or Bridgewater or Stafford? Or anybody else for that matter?

The primary problem IS in fact the O Line; Less than super pass receivers also contributes; Wasting downs running doesn't help either, given the lack of blocking; Good Defense against us had something to do with it too, but when those same defenses get shredded by the O Lines of other teams, it says a lot about ours.

We WILL get back on track, but it will be BECAUSE of Aaron Rodgers and IN SPITE of lame O Line blocking both in the running game and passing game.
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Smokey
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9 years ago
It's very comforting to believe that magically all the Packers problems will disappear and nothing but victories will remain. There are real problems that will need to be addressed and champions must be able to overcome adversity.

Playoffs, at this point % predictions and fairy dust mean very little.

What must change to get the Packers in the playoffs ? [frust]

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RaiderPride
9 years ago

What do the Packers need to do to be a better team ? How can the Packers raise their overall level of play and get into the playoffs ?

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Most likely they will need to beat The Raiders



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gbguy20
9 years ago

Anybody BONEHEAD STUPID enough to blame Aaron Rodgers for the Packer losses should find himself a new team to whine about. You like Cutler better? Or Bridgewater or Stafford? Or anybody else for that matter?

The primary problem IS in fact the O Line; Less than super pass receivers also contributes; Wasting downs running doesn't help either, given the lack of blocking; Good Defense against us had something to do with it too, but when those same defenses get shredded by the O Lines of other teams, it says a lot about ours.

We WILL get back on track, but it will be BECAUSE of Aaron Rodgers and IN SPITE of lame O Line blocking both in the running game and passing game.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Throwing 61 passes in a game is nearly twice as much as we should ever do. A good 60/40 - 70/30 ratio keeps the defense honest. How effective were our 61 passes? The more you throw, the less effective.
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dhazer
9 years ago

Anybody BONEHEAD STUPID enough to blame Aaron Rodgers for the Packer losses should find himself a new team to whine about. You like Cutler better? Or Bridgewater or Stafford? Or anybody else for that matter?

The primary problem IS in fact the O Line; Less than super pass receivers also contributes; Wasting downs running doesn't help either, given the lack of blocking; Good Defense against us had something to do with it too, but when those same defenses get shredded by the O Lines of other teams, it says a lot about ours.

We WILL get back on track, but it will be BECAUSE of Aaron Rodgers and IN SPITE of lame O Line blocking both in the running game and passing game.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I am bonehead stupid because I would take Ton Brady any day over Rodgers, why you ask? All he does is win football games with whatever players he has. They just lost Edleman which is a huge part of their passing game, but they will plug someone else in and chug right along. Brady has fire and Passion which we don't see from Rodgers anymore. Hell I would even take Cam right now or even a Bridgewater, they both play with what is given to them and play in the system, not buck the system.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Losing in the regular season just doesn't upset me that much. Sure, they are 2nd in the division. I get that. I see several flaws with the team and that some none expert can see it I find encouragement in that the Packers see it too and will effort a resolution.

The final four games of the season are going to be more emotionally tugging than this first 12. Hopefully they won't be 6 - 6 lol.


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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2015-nfl-predictions/  we have 85% chance of making the playoffs.



Not to beat a dead horse, but we had an even great percentage to beat the Seahawks in the NFC Championship Game at one point. When you are spiralling in the wrong direction this team needs to find a way to emotionally rally. I am not convinced having Mike and his stoic demeanor and Dom in the booth can send the in-game message that is needed at times. We need the team leaders to step up as well. Aaron, Clay, Julius, JJ all need to show a bit more leadership on the sideline when things go wrong in my opinion. It just wasn't there from what I saw against Detroit. I miss Kevin Greene on the sidelines.
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Mucky Tundra (19h) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (20h) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
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Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire
Martha Careful (10-Feb) : I cant help but feel good about how well the Packers D played in Philly during the playoffs
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : this game is over
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : This might be the kill shot here
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