MintBaconDrivel
9 years ago

Green Bay — Midseason, a time for reflection on what has been and what might be, has arrived in Green Bay and the National Football League.

Some teams discovered their hopes were little more than pipe dreams. Other teams suffered major injuries to quarterbacks and valuable players, and their hopes have dimmed.

Underachievers though they might be, the Green Bay Packers are among the fortunate few still very much capable of winning the Super Bowl.

Look at the Packers' roster. Tight end is their only position where the die is cast and it's wait 'til next year for an upgrade, although even there hope exists in the likely return of Andrew Quarless from a knee injury.

General manager Ted Thompson, having passed on the opportunity to acquire Vernon Davis in a possible trade with San Francisco, obviously doesn't view tight end as an area of urgent need.

At the 21 other starting positions, not to mention depth across the board, the Packers can match their roster with anyone's.

Thompson always likes his players and his teams, and he has every reason to like this one.

Fans can be a lot like scouts, nitpicking this player and that player. Sometimes familiarity does breed contempt when it comes to watching the same team week after week.

A general manager used to say to his scouts, "Tell me what a player can do, not what he can't do."

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nerdmann
9 years ago
Alot of this is Aaron always wanting to roll out. I think it was the Chiefs or the Chargers who first started only rushing as deep as he drops, cutting off his roll out lanes.

Jawarski said it this week too.  Aaron's got that mentality now that he's like a "run first" QB. Just settle the F down and get in a rhythm dude. Take your reads and hit the open guy.

Cosell said that Rodgers is “part of the problem” for the Packers, while Jaws revealed (as noted by friend of TBL Will Brinson) that he’s dropped Rodgers out of the top spot on his coveted quarterback big board.







Mike needs to reign Aaron in. Somebody needs to stand up to Aaron and tell him he needs to get it together. Aaron needs to get over himself or take a seat.






“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
gotarace
9 years ago
I just hope that if the Packers easily beat the Lions we don't get the illusion of grandeur again in Titletown. We have been exposed on defense as being super soft over the middle by two teams in a row and beating weak teams in the league doesn't make us title contenders. Where is our pass rush? Not even a pocket collapse in the last 2 weeks. We make Payton look 15 years younger and he was quick to expose our soft spot play after play. It really appears we are content with business as usual in Titletown and the gap gets larger between us and the elite teams in the league.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
It was more a matter of over-achieving for six games, then coming down to earth against a couple of really good teams playing inspired football at home. When I say "over-achieving", I mean playing better than would be expected from the personnel we have - specifically, an O Line that is mediocre at best, receivers who might not start for a lot of teams except for Cobb, an average RB taking over for a plow horse, a collection of disappointments other than Daniels in the D Line, very limited quality LB personnel other than Matthews and Peppers who seems to be good for about 5 minutes of decent play then nothing, pretty good DBs, but they better be with all the pressure on them for man coverage in a defensive scheme that literally can't survive without massive creative blitzing.

It all is made possible by our All World QB, our game changer LB, and the ultimate schemer of a D Coordinator.

We still should win it all, but just think how good things could be if the supporting cast even was just average quality.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

It was more a matter of over-achieving for six games, then coming down to earth against a couple of really good teams playing inspired football at home. When I say "over-achieving", I mean playing better than would be expected from the personnel we have - specifically, an O Line that is mediocre at best, receivers who might not start for a lot of teams except for Cobb, an average RB taking over for a plow horse, a collection of disappointments other than Daniels in the D Line, very limited quality LB personnel other than Matthews and Peppers who seems to be good for about 5 minutes of decent play then nothing, pretty good DBs, but they better be with all the pressure on them for man coverage in a defensive scheme that literally can't survive without massive creative blitzing.

It all is made possible by our All World QB, our game changer LB, and the ultimate schemer of a D Coordinator.

We still should win it all, but just think how good things could be if the supporting cast even was just average quality.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



This was a team that pissed the SB away last year.

The biggest problem is this team never shows up for 60, but that's normal. In addition to that, Aaron needs to get it together and stop stat whoring.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
greengold
9 years ago

I just hope that if the Packers easily beat the Lions we don't get the illusion of grandeur again in Titletown. We have been exposed on defense as being super soft over the middle by two teams in a row and beating weak teams in the league doesn't make us title contenders. Where is our pass rush? Not even a pocket collapse in the last 2 weeks. We make Payton look 15 years younger and he was quick to expose our soft spot play after play. It really appears we are content with business as usual in Titletown and the gap gets larger between us and the elite teams in the league.

Originally Posted by: gotarace 



Don't worry. The massive negativity surrounding this team won't go away after just one game.

I'm just looking forward to a win. Do you realize it has been 28 days since the Packers last won a game? 😲

gotarace
9 years ago

It was more a matter of over-achieving for six games, then coming down to earth against a couple of really good teams playing inspired football at home. When I say "over-achieving", I mean playing better than would be expected from the personnel we have - specifically, an O Line that is mediocre at best, receivers who might not start for a lot of teams except for Cobb, an average RB taking over for a plow horse, a collection of disappointments other than Daniels in the D Line, very limited quality LB personnel other than Matthews and Peppers who seems to be good for about 5 minutes of decent play then nothing, pretty good DBs, but they better be with all the pressure on them for man coverage in a defensive scheme that literally can't survive without massive creative blitzing.

It all is made possible by our All World QB, our game changer LB, and the ultimate schemer of a D Coordinator.

We still should win it all, but just think how good things could be if the supporting cast even was just average quality.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Love the post Texas but for one i'm not totally convinced Dom's as cagey as your praise. The last three games have been a complete train wreak on the defensive side of the ball. The smoke and mirror show has been exposed and we have been caught with our pants down. The blueprint to beat us is there and it is the execution of the opposing teams that will weigh heavily on our success.
Your post seams to point a finger at Ted Thompson's draft and develop tweener picks that rarely have developed talent at the position drafted. The pressure falls on the coaching staff with many of his picks to make them something they are not...without much success with many of them. Maybe Ted's time in Green Bay is coming to a end.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Love the post Texas but for one i'm not totally convinced Dom's as cagey as your praise. The last three games have been a complete train wreak on the defensive side of the ball. The smoke and mirror show has been exposed and we have been caught with our pants down. The blueprint to beat us is there and it is the execution of the opposing teams that will weigh heavily on our success.
Your post seams to point a finger at Ted Thompson's draft and develop tweener picks that rarely have developed talent at the position drafted at. The pressure falls on the coaching staff with many of his picks to make them something they are not...without much success with many of them. Maybe Ted's time in Green Bay is coming to a end.

Originally Posted by: gotarace 



A little ToP will do wonders to help this D.

As for Ted, we've got plenty of talent. Aaron needs to pull his head out, and that will help us considerably. The WRs have been getting open and getting deep, they just haven't connected.
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greengold
9 years ago

A little ToP will do wonders to help this D.

As for Ted, we've got plenty of talent. Aaron needs to pull his head out, and that will help us considerably. The WRs have been getting open and getting deep, they just haven't connected.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I agree. This defense looks a LOT better when the offense stays on the field more than 3 downs.
nerdmann
9 years ago
They didn't elevate their game.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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Mucky Tundra (13h) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (13h) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
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packerfanoutwest (17h) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (17h) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (17h) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (20h) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (20h) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (20h) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (20h) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (20h) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (20h) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (20h) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (20h) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (21h) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (21h) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (21h) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (21h) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (22h) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (22h) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (22h) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (22h) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (22h) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
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Zero2Cool (23h) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23h) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
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Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
beast (23-Dec) : This is not complex, just someone doesn't want to believe reality
beast (23-Dec) : We already have told you... if Packers lose all their games (they won't, but if they did), and Buccaneers and Falcons win all theirs
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I posted it in that Packers and 1 seed thread
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I literally just said it.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : show us a scenario where Pack don't get in? bet you can't
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Falcons, Buccaneers would need to win final two games.
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