RaiderPride
9 years ago
Watching the Hawks game.. Watched Jon Ryan kill one.

Punting

Ryan - Average Punt - 47.6 Inside 20 - 11

Masthay -Average Punt - 43.3 Inside 20 - 5

Why did the Packers cut the Canadian from Winnipeg again? (He took an extra half step to get the ball off)

That extra half step is working.
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luigis
9 years ago
I'm sure there were non-football related issues that lead to cutting Ryan. He was punting well and I think we can all agree that he is better than Mashtay.
Mashtay is average+ so we don't really have a huge problem in the position.


Luis
Smokey
9 years ago
The Packers are 6 - 0, yet there will always be those that feel they just have to bitch about something.

The punter ? [boxing]

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DakotaT
9 years ago

The Packers are 6 - 0, yet there will always be those that feel they just have to bitch about something.

The punter ? [boxing]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



It isn't like we're tearing off heads and shitting down necks now does it? Well, there has been some shitting.

Besides, this is stress release for me.
UserPostedImage
9 years ago
just wait till he bitches about his Depends leaking
greengold
9 years ago
I hear what you are saying RaiderPride.... But punter envy? Just doesn't seem right. 😁
steveishere
9 years ago

Watching the Hawks game.. Watched Jon Ryan kill one.

Punting

Ryan - Average Punt - 47.6 Inside 20 - 11

Masthay -Average Punt - 43.3 Inside 20 - 5

Why did the Packers cut the Canadian from Winnipeg again? (He took an extra half step to get the ball off)

That extra half step is working.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



Ryan also has punted more times. Masthay punts have averaged 4.0 yards per return, Ryans have gone for 18.1 per return. This is despite Masthay being in an obvious funk to start the season. Great Ryan might be a better punter but the difference between him and Masthay isn't great enough to be of much importance.
RaiderPride
9 years ago

just wait till he bitches about his Depends leaking

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 



Now.. The "Depends" leaking comment is something that needs to be expanded and explored.

A comment like that does not appear on a football forum with out some sort of childhood trauma that preceded the thought.

packerfanoutwest It is not your fault. It is not your fault. It is not your fault. It is not your fault.. Let it go..

It is not your fault.

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beast
9 years ago

Why did the Packers cut the Canadian from Winnipeg again?

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 

Official: Who cares..

Unofficial: Special Teams coach Mike Stock started working for the Packers in 2006 and someone inside the Packers found this kids with a ton of potential in Punter Jon Ryan. As most of us know, Ryan was inconsistent as something he'd hit a huge boom punt other times he'd shank one... let call this problem a "hitch" in his kicking motion (because I have no idea what to call it or what was wrong)....

But I do know rumor had it, that Ryan was attempting to fix the "hitch" problem... and in doing so, Ryan requested for the Packers permission for a trip/kicking consultation visit with "kicking guru" Coach (Gary) Zauner  and for the Packers to pay for said trip/visit.

Ryan's request was rejected... no rumor on the details on how that all went down... but rumor has it the results were Coach Stock some how was PISSED at Ryan for something (lots of different speculation of why Stock was pissed, like offended that Ryan thought someone else could do better, or that Stock said no and Ryan attempted to go around/above Stock for higher up approval pissed him off etc etc... we'll never know the details unless someone talks)

But anyways back on subject to the firm rumors, Ryan's request was rejected and Stock was PISSED at Ryan, and started looking for another Punter.... and Washington drafted a punter that year making a punting battle with Punter Frost... most people opinions seemed to be Frost was better than the rookie (but both were bad), they kept the rookie and cut Frost... Stock had some history with the Redskins and I guess at some point early in Frost career personally worked Frost out and he was consistent and had great directional punting skills.... so PISS at Ryan, he was looking at the grass on the other side and took it. Mike McCarthy & Ted Thompson either listened to Stock or let him have the final say and that was good bye to Ryan and hello to Frost.

And in the end, Coach Stock ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶̶ retired at the season in, and after being fired by the Packers, Jon Ryan went on to pay his own way to go visit "kicking guru" Coach (Gary) Zauner  and wouldn't you know it, 7 of his next 8 years all had better net punting than he had with the Packers, including Ryan being a more consistent and getting away from those shanks... so something worked out for Ryan.

Coach Zauner working with John Ryan after being released by the Packers



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RaiderPride
9 years ago

Official: Who cares..

Unofficial: Special Teams coach Mike Stock started working for the Packers in 2006 and someone inside the Packers found this kids with a ton of potential in Punter Jon Ryan. As most of us know, Ryan was inconsistent as something he'd hit a huge boom punt other times he'd shank one... let call this problem a "hitch" in his kicking motion (because I have no idea what to call it or what was wrong)....

But I do know rumor had it, that Ryan was attempting to fix the "hitch" problem... and in doing so, Ryan requested for the Packers permission for a trip/kicking consultation visit with "kicking guru" Coach (Gary) Zauner  and for the Packers to pay for said trip/visit.

Ryan's request was rejected... no rumor on the details on how that all went down... but rumor has it the results were Coach Stock some how was PISSED at Ryan for something (lots of different speculation of why Stock was pissed, like offended that Ryan thought someone else could do better, or that Stock said no and Ryan attempted to go around/above Stock for higher up approval pissed him off etc etc... we'll never know the details unless someone talks)

But anyways back on subject to the firm rumors, Ryan's request was rejected and Stock was PISSED at Ryan, and started looking for another Punter.... and Washington drafted a punter that year making a punting battle with Punter Frost... most people opinions seemed to be Frost was better than the rookie (but both were bad), they kept the rookie and cut Frost... Stock had some history with the Redskins and I guess at some point early in Frost career personally worked Frost out and he was consistent and had great directional punting skills.... so PISS at Ryan, he was looking at the grass on the other side and took it. Mike McCarthy & Ted Thompson either listened to Stock or let him have the final say and that was good bye to Ryan and hello to Frost.

And in the end, Coach Stock ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶c̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶̶ retired at the season in, and after being fired by the Packers, Jon Ryan went on to pay his own way to go visit "kicking guru" Coach (Gary) Zauner  and wouldn't you know it, 7 of his next 8 years all had better net punting than he had with the Packers, including Ryan being a more consistent and getting away from those shanks... so something worked out for Ryan.

Coach Zauner working with John Ryan after being released by the Packers


Originally Posted by: beast 



BRILLIANT HISTORICAL FACTUAL PACKER INSITE. As always BEAST.

My post was just an expansion on the HOUSE move thread that Zero posted, based on watching the kid tonight. In other words, why did they let Jon go?

Beast steps up with the interesting facts and info.

The depends guy sort of has a different contribution to this thread.









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