Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Ha, come on now. He gave his opinion, that's cool. I have no issues with folks disputing the POWER RANKINGS I post with my name attached to. Bring it on!! I have history on my side. 🙂
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TheKanataThrilla
9 years ago
It is sort of like the draft. The first five from both Zero and Texas I think are pretty good. After that is a bit of a free-for-all and a crap shoot.
beast
9 years ago

  1. Arizona Cardinals 1
  2. Green Bay Packers -1
  3. Buffalo Bills 6
  4. New England Patriots 3
  5. Cincinnati Bengals 3
  6. Denver Broncos 0
  7. Tennessee Titans -4
  8. Carolina Panthers 3
  9. Dallas Cowboys -5
  10. San Diego Chargers 6
  11. New York Jets -6
  12. Atlanta Falcons 3
  13. New York Giants 8
  14. Pittsburgh Steelers 4
  15. Oakland Raiders 7
  16. Minnesota Vikings -4

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Just some general questions Zero

why do you have the Bills one spot ahead of the Patriots when the Patriots beat the Bills?

Also how are you doing with the loss of QBs?

Falcons beat Cowboys (with out Romo play) but Cowboys are listed higher.

I'm surprised the Steelers are listed so low, unless losing Big Ben has something to do with it...

And after a strong win why did the Vikings lose spots in the power ranking (other than the fact they're the Vikings)



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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Just some general questions Zero

why do you have the Bills one spot ahead of the Patriots when the Patriots beat the Bills?

Also how are you doing with the loss of QBs?

Falcons beat Cowboys (with out Romo play) but Cowboys are listed higher.

I'm surprised the Steelers are listed so low, unless losing Big Ben has something to do with it...

And after a strong win why did the Vikings lose spots in the power ranking (other than the fact they're the Vikings)


Originally Posted by: beast 


1, did you know the Bills are ranked 1st in both team offensive and team defensive rushing?
2, depends on how efficient the quarterback plays
3, the rankings are not week to week, but an accumulation of week one through this week.
4, the Steelers are not that efficient of a team even with Ben and are going to be less efficient with Mike Vick. You will see. :D
5, please see #3

Maybe Ray-Ray is on to something and the title of the rankings should be revisited. Perhaps Zero's Team Efficiency Rankings is more apt?
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beast
9 years ago

1, did you know the Bills are ranked 1st in both team offensive and team defensive rushing?
2, depends on how efficient the quarterback plays
3, the rankings are not week to week, but an accumulation of week one through this week.
4, the Steelers are not that efficient of a team even with Ben and are going to be less efficient with Mike Vick. You will see. :D
5, please see #3

Maybe Ray-Ray is on to something and the title of the rankings should be revisited. Perhaps Zero's Team Efficiency Rankings is more apt?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


1) No I didn't know that about the Bills... but I do know it's called "A passing league" for some reason
2) Yeah I was just looking at the different placement of the Cowboys and Steelers whom both lost their starting QB for a while
3) Yeah Power Rankings has a different idea in my head other than accumulation of the entire season.... when I read power rankings I think of a list of "who's hot; who's not" type of thing which is normally based on what QB looked very good in their last two games BS.
4) I haven't followed the Steelers that closely but it seemed like their offense was hot in week 2 and 3. And somehow the Steelers (when Big Ben is healthy) normally seem to get wins (when they're not facing the Patriots that is). ... and PS... I don't trust Vick much... but healthy Big Ben seem pretty good.
5) Vikings defense is looking pretty good and Peterson running the ball...


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dhazer
9 years ago

You keep going on and on about data analysis. WHAT ridiculous data gives you the ridiculous conclusion that Seattle is the 19th "most powerful" team in the NFL?

I asked you before and I don't think you ever answered, do you make your picks based on these silly "power" rankings?

Maybe you should call them "Data Analysis Rankings". Power means # 19 would lose to numbers 1-18, etc.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I in turn ask you why you say Seattle is so high on your list? They are 1-2 their defense is not the defense of old and their offense is just not clicking. Their o-line is in shambles and they have no running game right now. Their lone win was over a chicago team that was missing their starting qb and main wr and still only trailed 6-0 at halftime.

So please explain to me how they are in the top 4, the cowboys in the top 10 as they stand right now. I know your going off reputation and what the media says but then again you have a 2-1 and soon to be 3-1 raider team ranked as the 29th best team.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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DoddPower
9 years ago

I in turn ask you why you say Seattle is so high on your list? They are 1-2 their defense is not the defense of old and their offense is just not clicking. Their o-line is in shambles and they have no running game right now. Their lone win was over a chicago team that was missing their starting qb and main wr and still only trailed 6-0 at halftime.

So please explain to me how they are in the top 4, the cowboys in the top 10 as they stand right now. I know your going off reputation and what the media says but then again you have a 2-1 and soon to be 3-1 raider team ranked as the 29th best team.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



I largely agree, but I still think Seattle will be a force late in the season and in the playoffs. Their defense is still very good, and their offense should continue to mature and ultimately be decent. They will be capable of winning games in January. Having Chancellor (sp?) back helps.
texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
hahahahaha Are we having fun yet?

I pictured myself as the harrassee, not the harrasser, but a big whatever to that. Mostly, I offered a counter which seemed to make a LOT more sense and asked some questions, virtually NONE of which got answered.

I like that idea of calling it some kind of "team efficiency" ranking or whatever. POWER means the ability to defeat the less POWERFUL - no more, no less.

RaiderPride, anyone who challenges me in politics or whatever knows, I usually strike back hard to posters who have posted like you did. However, the fact is, ranking your precious Raiders 29th may have been unjustified, and I can empathize with having my favorites disrespected - as most Badger and Big Ten in general fans can understand. The fact is, by the time I got to the bottom of the rankings, I realized I only had 30 teams, and I had a helluva time figuring out who I left out. So I was getting pissed off and tired, and just kinda threw the last few in there. I still don't see the Raiders as all that great though. There are maybe 5 or 6 or 7 teams I might expect them to beat - which I guess makes them what? 26, 25, or 24? As for Seattle, I have no "love" at all for them. However, common sense says, they would be expected to beat just about ANY team in the league - except the Packers, and maybe the Pats and Cards. And it would be a crapshoot even against those teams. Could you possibly disagree with that? Could anybody? And THAT is what POWER is all about.

So, as Zero said to me, to paraphrase, if anybody has any disagreement, let him have the balls to post his own rankings - and to designate them either as POWER or some other silly shit rankings.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I agree with the part about posting rankings. I think it'd be cool for everyone to do it! :D

I like that idea of calling it some kind of "team efficiency" ranking or whatever. POWER means the ability to defeat the less POWERFUL - no more, no less.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 


I never really considered POWER rankings meaning they'd overtake those below them without question. I always felt POWER was more OPINION than anything else. I've read a lot of power rankings and they are rarely ever predicated on anything substantial. It's always opinion and value weighted towards whomever is hot at that time.


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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago

I agree with the part about posting rankings. I think it'd be cool for everyone to do it! :D

I never really considered POWER rankings meaning they'd overtake those below them without question. I always felt POWER was more OPINION than anything else. I've read a lot of power rankings and they are rarely ever predicated on anything substantial. It's always opinion and value weighted towards whomever is hot at that time.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



True, I guess, it's an opinion, but ultimately it is what it is - somebody has the POWER to be a strong bet to beat somebody else. People may differ on how that is/who has the most POWER, but what set me off was calling it a "Power Ranking" and then basing it on something else - NOT who has the POWER to beat who. (oops whom hahahaha)


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