uffda udfa
9 years ago
What round pick would you be comfortable shipping to Cleveland for Manziel, if any?

I'd be great with a 4th this year and 5th next. A 3rd would give me pause but perhaps Ted Thompson thinks highly of Johnny Football...he sure did of Vince Young.

Would Ted Thompson put a guy like Manziel in Green Bay...Favre had no fanfare when he came quietly in the night. Johnny would bring his Beattles persona and that might be too much for TT.
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QCHuskerFan
9 years ago
I would be pleased with any pick the Bears choose to use in their trade for Manziel.
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steveishere
9 years ago
Like a 5th maybe a 4th. The guy looked god awful last year but I would be interested to see what working with Rodgers and McCarthy could do for him and that's about what I'd be fine with spending for any back up QB. I don't really see what's in it for Cleveland at this point to move him for so little, they'll probably just hang on to him for a while and see how it works out.
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I'd trade them even up for Tramon Williams.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago
I would much rather have Manziel than any QB we might be able to draft to develop.

If we would spend a 3rd on Bryce Petty, hypothetically, I would rather upgrade my ceiling to a 3rd for Johnny Football.

Like you Steve, I would love to see what being in our structure and city would do for him. It would also be interesting to think how he would react and Rodgers as well. Would love it just for the theater itself.
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musccy
9 years ago
Cleveland would have to give us 2 first rounders, then I'd consider accepting their trash heap.

What has he shown to give anyone any indication he could be successful at this level?
nerdmann
9 years ago

Cleveland would have to give us 2 first rounders, then I'd consider accepting their trash heap.

What has he shown to give anyone any indication he could be successful at this level?

Originally Posted by: musccy 



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Being a redneck probably means you're conservative.
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9 years ago
A sixth, maybe.

Not because of the "behavior risk" so much as he's simply not going to be happy spending years as a backup to AR.
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uffda udfa
9 years ago

Cleveland would have to give us 2 first rounders, then I'd consider accepting their trash heap.

What has he shown to give anyone any indication he could be successful at this level?

Originally Posted by: musccy 



What did Favre show? He was 0-5 with 2 picks and a trainwreck off the field like Manziel. Manziel was unfocused and undisciplined last year with a drinking problem.

There is way too much "it factor" with Manziel and he can throw it unlike Tebow. If Ted can fleece Cleveland, I hope he does.

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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Manziel needs a specific offense to be successful and I don't think McCarthy's offense is that.
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